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vagabond 06-29-2011 04:59 PM

Slow Motion Stampede At JFK
 
We all need a cute story now and then. Go turtles!


From Associated Press:

About 150 turtles crawled onto the tarmac at New York's Kennedy airport Wednesday in search of beaches to lay their eggs, delaying dozens of flights, aviation authorities said.

The slow-motion stampede began about 6:45 a.m., and within three hours there were so many turtles on Runway 4L and nearby taxiways that controllers were forced to move departing flights to another runway.

"We ceded to Mother Nature," said Ron Marsico, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the airport.

Workers from the Port Authority and the U.S. Department of Agriculture were scooping up turtles and moving them across the airport, he said.

Flight delays averaged about 30 minutes, the FAA said.

The migration of diamondback terrapin turtles happens every year at Kennedy, which is built on the edge of Jamaica Bay and a federally protected park. In late June or early July the animals heave themselves out of the bay and head toward a beach to lay their eggs.

The peak of the turtle trouble usually lasts a few days, Marsico said.
Several pilots, some of them stifling chuckles, began reporting turtles on Runway 4L just as the morning rush hour was beginning at JFK, according to a radio recording posted on LiveATC.net.

"Be advised 30 feet into the takeoff roll, left side of the centerline, there's another turtle," called the pilot of American Airlines Flight 1009, a Boeing 767 that had just taken off for the Dominican Republic.

"There's another one on the runway?" asked the controller.

"Uh, well he WAS there," the pilot said as the big airliner climbed into the air.

American 663, a Boeing 737 headed to Fort Lauderdale, found its way to runway 4L blocked by three of the roving reptiles. After ground crews removed them, the plane taxied into takeoff position, received takeoff clearance - and was promptly blocked by more turtles.

American and JetBlue, which has a hub at JFK, both said there were no major disruptions to their flights.

"We hope for faster animals next time," JetBlue said in a statement.

Female diamondback terrapins can grow up to 9 inches long and weigh up to three pounds.

And they're apparently computer-savvy: By midmorning, the turtles were chronicling their adventures through a joke account set up by someone on Twitter.

"So Steve was like `Frogger is cool. Let's try that.' 12 hours later and here we are," the "turtles" tweeted, referring to the 1980s video game in which a frog tries to cross a busy highway.

In March, an anonymous jokester set up a Twitter account for a cobra that went missing in the Bronx Zoo's reptile house. By the time the cobra was recaptured, 235,000 people were following the snarky snake's wisecracks online. A peahen that slipped away from the zoo in May also tweeted her escape.

For aviation officials, wayward wildlife is a serious concern at JFK and nearby LaGuardia Airport, which both sit on shorelines populated by geese, turtles, ducks, frogs and other animals. In January 2009 a U.S. Airways plane bound for Charlotte, N.C. was forced to land in the Hudson River after it hit a flock of birds and lost power in both engines. All 155 passengers and crew members were rescued.

In the past year, planes at JFK have collided with gulls, hawks, swans and an osprey, according to the FAA's database of wildlife strikes. In February, a superjumbo Airbus 380 flown by Emirates Airlines sucked an unidentified bird into one of its massive engines, causing about $30,000 worth of damage, the database shows.

"Other regions have their own issues with the runways, but this is kind of unique being so close to the water," FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said.
Road kill on runways can sometimes make the surface slippery, but there are no reports of turtles damaging a plane at JFK in recent years, the FAA database shows.

The main concern is for the turtles themselves, Marsico said. He said crews were loading the turtles into pickup trucks and giving them rides to the nesting beaches.

"We are trying to help wildlife out a bit here," Marsico said. "We built on the area where they were nesting for generations, so we feel incumbent to help them along the way."

wrxpilot 06-29-2011 05:39 PM

God help us all if that happened in LAX or SFO. The airports probably would've been closed permanently.

threeighteen 06-29-2011 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 1015646)
God help us all if that happened in LAX or SFO. The airports probably would've been closed permanently.

In the case of LAX, that might not be such a bad thing... an offshore airport ala KIX or HKG would do that place wonders.

finedavefine 06-29-2011 06:17 PM

Yeah, especially if you put it somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico, off the Texas coast.

Fishfreighter 06-29-2011 06:19 PM

Reminds me of the time I turned down a T/O clearance in PIT because a beaver strolled out on the runway in front of me.

TWR: Navy XXX, cleared for T/O.
Me: Um, we've got a beaver on the runway.
TWR: T/O clearance cancelled.

You can imagine the radio transmissions that followed regarding the poor beaver.

captain beefy 06-29-2011 07:02 PM

YouTube - ‪Zombie Kid Likes Turtles‬‏


....I like Turtles..

scambo1 06-29-2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by captain beefy (Post 1015686)


I like beaver...just not justin

YouTube - ‪Beaver Stretching - Should Look Like‬‏

BlueMoon 06-29-2011 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1015703)

Not what I was expecting.

forgot to bid 06-29-2011 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1015703)

Intrigued but not sure I should have on my internet record looking at whatever this video is...


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1015712)
Not what I was expecting.

More intrigued. Less likely to click as it may not be what I think....


:D

forgot to bid 06-29-2011 08:56 PM

I like the NYPost's take:


Get the shell out of the way!

Sex-crazed turtles shut down a runway at Kennedy Airport this morning as they crawled across the tarmac heading for their seasonal breeding grounds.

Runway 4L was shut down starting about 9:30 a.m., the Federal Aviation Administration said.

Read more: Turtles shutdown runway at Kennedy Airport as they crawled across tarmac heading for seasonal breeding grounds - NYPOST.com

mjarosz 06-29-2011 09:09 PM

Airport authorities first spotted the turtles when they noticed something was moving unusually fast at JFK.

tsquare 06-30-2011 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by mjarosz (Post 1015747)
Airport authorities first spotted the turtles when they noticed something was moving unusually fast at JFK.

Ain't THAT the truth? :D:D:D

Sandy106 06-30-2011 04:40 AM

What kind of damage would a turtle do to an airplane? FOD/landing gear damage?

Kind of confused why they would halt air traffic for something as small as that. :confused:

scambo1 06-30-2011 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Sandy106 (Post 1015794)
What kind of damage would a turtle do to an airplane? FOD/landing gear damage?

Kind of confused why they would halt air traffic for something as small as that. :confused:

Because turtles are part of our delicate ecosystem. In a city like NY where you have already paved everything, only turtles, rats, cockroaches and pigeons have survived. If you kill off the turtles, you are left with the other three.

I'm putting some baby harp seal steaks on the grill tonight, you want to come over for dinner? TIC.:eek:

hoserpilot 06-30-2011 04:56 AM

I hit a rabbit once. When maintenance asked what happened I told him, " a waskally wabbit wan out on da wunway and I whacked him!" He shook his head in disgust and walked away.

johnso29 06-30-2011 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Sandy106 (Post 1015794)
What kind of damage would a turtle do to an airplane? FOD/landing gear damage?

Kind of confused why they would halt air traffic for something as small as that. :confused:

A turtle could damage an airplane, but I think the main reason they halted flights was for the safety of the turtles. Could you imagine the uproar if the already hated and evil airlines(who pillage and plunder innocent passengers via fees) :rolleyes: mercilessly murdered hundreds of turtles by hit and run? :D

yamahas3 06-30-2011 06:32 AM

Last I checked, you can't get landing/takeoff performance data for a runway contaminated with turtle guts. One or two is ok, but when they cover greater than 25% of the surface you have a problem.

rightside02 06-30-2011 06:44 AM

This is so great !!!!!! I almost
Peep the pants !!!!

OnMyWay 06-30-2011 07:03 AM

"And were off like a herd of turtles"!

tsquare 06-30-2011 07:48 AM

.. and all this time I thought I was running over centerline lights...

forgot to bid 06-30-2011 07:51 AM

Turtle guts on the runway, is that when we use "clutter" numbers?

forgot to bid 06-30-2011 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1015873)
.. and all this time I thought I was running over centerline lights...

The braille takeoff is not so funny when you take the turtle route into the grass.

forgot to bid 06-30-2011 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by mjarosz (Post 1015747)
Airport authorities first spotted the turtles when they noticed something was moving unusually fast at JFK.

^^^^ One of the better quotes of the month. :D

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At Coex we had a E145 touchdown in some remote Mexican factory town village (normal) and as the nose wheel came down it struck a jack rabbit running from a fox. Nothing the crew could do. They made the normal u-turn on the runway and were headed back to the ramp and noticed the fox desperately trying to drag the rabbit away before the bird came back for it.

Bucking Bar 06-30-2011 08:49 AM

Just wait until you visit Costa Rica. The Iguana come to sun themselves on the runway. The runway is such a POS that you barely notice the water balloon like impact of the Reptiles. They kind of go "pop" which adds to the amusement of the whole spectacle.

v1 uh-oh 06-30-2011 01:17 PM

I guess pilots are a lot like turtles. We both go a long way and do stupid things to get some...


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