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11Fan 07-28-2011 06:50 AM

No-Fly List Nominees
 
Have a nice rowboat ride back to San Juan boys. You're never setting foot on an airplane again.

Brothers Arrested, Pilot Hurt After Fight On Plane At MIA - Miami News Story - WPLG Miami

And this should be automatic. Hit a Crew Member, you're riding the bus or rowing a boat from now on.

johnso29 07-28-2011 07:11 AM

AA Pilot beaten by removed passengers.
 
An American Airlines pilot was beaten by two drunk passengers as he tried to escort them off a plane on Wednesday night.

American Airlines flight 1755, from Miami to San Francisco, was taxing on the runway at around 9pm when a flight attendant noticed 27-year old Jonathan Baez was asleep and not wearing his seat belt. The attendant tried to awaken the man, but he was unresponsive possibly from medication or alcohol, NBC News Miami reports.

The pilot was alerted of the situation and turned the plane back to the gate. The pilot and the flight attendant then tried to waken Baez, who after several attempts, was awake and told he would be removed from the flight due to his condition.

As Baez was being escorted off the flight, his 29-year old brother, Luis Daniel, walked off the flight with him. The brothers then threatened the pilot, as Luis Daniel warned: "When you fly to San Juan, I will have you killed," MSNBC reports.

The pilot stayed with the plane, but Luis Daniel returned, hitting the unidentified pilot with his fist. When a flight attendant tried to help, Luis Daniel hit the attendant in the shoulder. Jonathan then returned and helped his brother beat the pilot with their fists, causing a bruise, cuts and blurred vision in his left eye, the police report states. When the pilot fled into the terminal, the brothers chased after him.

The brothers were eventually detained by flight crew and passengers from the plane. Both men were charged with aggravated battery. Luis Daniel was charged with aggravated assault and is being held on $12,500 bond. Jonathan is being held on a $9,000 bond, NBC Miami reports.

MSNBC reports that the flight finally left at 11:30pm, two hours after scheduled departure.

Grumble 07-28-2011 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1030090)
An American Airlines pilot was beaten by two drunk passengers as he tried to escort them off a plane on Wednesday night.

American Airlines flight 1755, from Miami to San Francisco, was taxing on the runway at around 9pm when a flight attendant noticed 27-year old Jonathan Baez was asleep and not wearing his seat belt. The attendant tried to awaken the man, but he was unresponsive possibly from medication or alcohol, NBC News Miami reports.

The pilot was alerted of the situation and turned the plane back to the gate. The pilot and the flight attendant then tried to waken Baez, who after several attempts, was awake and told he would be removed from the flight due to his condition.

As Baez was being escorted off the flight, his 29-year old brother, Luis Daniel, walked off the flight with him. The brothers then threatened the pilot, as Luis Daniel warned: "When you fly to San Juan, I will have you killed," MSNBC reports.

The pilot stayed with the plane, but Luis Daniel returned, hitting the unidentified pilot with his fist. When a flight attendant tried to help, Luis Daniel hit the attendant in the shoulder. Jonathan then returned and helped his brother beat the pilot with their fists, causing a bruise, cuts and blurred vision in his left eye, the police report states. When the pilot fled into the terminal, the brothers chased after him.

The brothers were eventually detained by flight crew and passengers from the plane. Both men were charged with aggravated battery. Luis Daniel was charged with aggravated assault and is being held on $12,500 bond. Jonathan is being held on a $9,000 bond, NBC Miami reports.

MSNBC reports that the flight finally left at 11:30pm, two hours after scheduled departure.

Disgusting. These two are royally screwed. Federal and state charges, they're going to do time for this, and the pilot has an air tight lawsuit.

Herb Flemmming 07-28-2011 07:15 AM

Shoot them in both kneecaps then deport their asses

labbats 07-28-2011 07:22 AM

I would love to see someone take a punch at me when I'm escorting them off the plane. Particularly if they are inebriated and I'm dead sober.

Also, where was the other pilot?

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forgot to bid 07-28-2011 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1030100)
I would love to see someone take a punch at me when I'm escorting them off the plane. Particularly if they are inebriated and I'm dead sober.

Also, where was the other pilot?

I'd assume when the other flight crew came to assist he was involved and probably on the radio.

Fishfreighter 07-28-2011 07:38 AM

This is why you leave them in their seats and let the LEOs "escort" them off the plane. You get paid to be the Captain, not a bouncer.

eaglefly 07-28-2011 07:43 AM

Yep, I've had this before and simply call the police/paramedics (it could be a medical issue).

But, if you're on the ground in an unavoidable forced confrontation, I believe the appropriate first response would have been a point-blank blast to the face with a halon fire-extinguisher. We all know another useful item in near proximity to the front of the aircraft that will part the hair nicely if applied cleanly in a vertical motion and that should have been the next step.

When it comes to flat out assault on crewmembers on aircraft, as far as I'm concerned, the gloves come off.

sandlapper223 07-28-2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 1030110)
This is why you leave them in their seats and let the LEOs "escort" them off the plane. You get paid to be the Captain, not a bouncer.

Bingo. However, this should serve as a reminder as to the threats that exist everyday we perform our jobs. Lurking like snakes in the grass. Do you think the pilot was expecting the assault? Most likely not, so what are we learning in the school house every year again? Time to take it more seriously this go around.


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