Year's worth of AA pilots retire in one day
Airline Biz Blog | Sep 01, 2011
An unusually high number of American airlines pilots retired early as of Sept. 1 -- 111 in all. As the Allied Pilots Associations points out, 2010's average was 11 per month, with a high of 24 in August 2010. Some other factoids: * 23 of the retiring pilots are check airmen -- the pilots who make sure other pilots are doing it right. * 46 of the 111 were Boeing 777 captains, plus another three 777 first officers. About one in every four 777 captain based at D/FW Airport retired. * The average age, by my calculations, was just under 61. The youngest was a Dallas-based pilot who turned 54 in August. Eight were 63. Less than 20 were under age 60. The bulk fell in the 60 to 62 bracket. * The average seniority among the retirees, by my calculations, was 29 years. The list included three 777 captains -- one from D/FW, two from Chicago -- with 35 years' experience, and another that would have hit 35 years in October. As American Airlines pilots know intimately, their B Plan has an interesting feature. A pilot can lock in the value of the B Plan shares backwards for 60 days. If the shares fall sharply, they can retire and still get the shares' value from 60 days before their retirement. The B Plan shares this summer have dropped a lot, like the entire market, and quite a few pilots decided to take their retirements now rather than hope the B Plan shares recover in value in the near future. As more than one pilot pointed out to me in the past few weeks, a long-time pilot with a lot of money in the B Plan could have seen the value of those shares drop $200,000 or $300,000 in the past two months. They would have to work a long time just to make up in salary the amount of the decrease in their B Plan accounts. So why not go now? That's the B Plan, a defined-contribution plan into which American Airlines contributes an amount equal to 11 percent of a pilot's pay. Then there's the A Plan, the pilots' defined-benefit plan. There's been a lot of pilot communication back and forth about the possibility of American filing for bankruptcy protection at some point in the future, a step that would likely result in reduced pensions and an inability to withdraw a lump sum upon retirement. Another reason for pilots to go now rather than wait to see what happens. Of course, the stock market didn't have a good August, either. There could always be another large group of pilots who decide to retire Oct. 1 if the B Plan shares don't recover from the market's recent dip. 111 American Airlines pilots retire on Sept. 1 : The Airline Zone |
That's one heck if a contract provision, cashing out the lump sum using it's value from two months ago.
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Just to give an idea, what is the value of the lump sum cashout? Sounds like aa is about to pick up classes at the school house.
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Originally Posted by APC225
(Post 1047970)
That's one heck if a contract provision, cashing out the lump sum using it's value from two months ago.
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Due to 2 more curious situations, the final number is heard to be 113.
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That's awesome! Hope hiring starts soon. Congrats to those that got a bump. :D
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Wonder how many will retire tomorrow...
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Originally Posted by TXHillCountry
(Post 1047984)
Due to 2 more curious situations....
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Originally Posted by APC225
(Post 1047967)
An unusually high number of American airlines pilots retired early as of Sept. 1 -- 111 in all.
As the Allied Pilots Associations points out, 2010's average was 11 per month, with a high of 24 in August 2010. Some other factoids: * 23 of the retiring pilots are check airmen -- the pilots who make sure other pilots are doing it right. * 46 of the 111 were Boeing 777 captains, plus another three 777 first officers. About one in every four 777 captain based at D/FW Airport retired. * The average age, by my calculations, was just under 61. The youngest was a Dallas-based pilot who turned 54 in August. Eight were 63. Less than 20 were under age 60. The bulk fell in the 60 to 62 bracket. * The average seniority among the retirees, by my calculations, was 29 years. The list included three 777 captains -- one from D/FW, two from Chicago -- with 35 years' experience, and another that would have hit 35 years in October. As American Airlines pilots know intimately, their B Plan has an interesting feature. A pilot can lock in the value of the B Plan shares backwards for 60 days. If the shares fall sharply, they can retire and still get the shares' value from 60 days before their retirement. The B Plan shares this summer have dropped a lot, like the entire market, and quite a few pilots decided to take their retirements now rather than hope the B Plan shares recover in value in the near future. As more than one pilot pointed out to me in the past few weeks, a long-time pilot with a lot of money in the B Plan could have seen the value of those shares drop $200,000 or $300,000 in the past two months. They would have to work a long time just to make up in salary the amount of the decrease in their B Plan accounts. So why not go now? That's the B Plan, a defined-contribution plan into which American Airlines contributes an amount equal to 11 percent of a pilot's pay. Then there's the A Plan, the pilots' defined-benefit plan. There's been a lot of pilot communication back and forth about the possibility of American filing for bankruptcy protection at some point in the future, a step that would likely result in reduced pensions and an inability to withdraw a lump sum upon retirement. Another reason for pilots to go now rather than wait to see what happens. Of course, the stock market didn't have a good August, either. There could always be another large group of pilots who decide to retire Oct. 1 if the B Plan shares don't recover from the market's recent dip. 111 American Airlines pilots retire on Sept. 1 : The Airline Zone Google "4044 Asset Allocation Priority Category 3" |
None. AA pilots retire effective the first of the month.
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