JetPilotMike

From E-Note:

DSPNOT TITLE:/ UPDATES /LET TYPE/ / EFFDTE:/ 080108
AUTHOR: /CARLSON,PAUL /ADDRS /WHQCM /EXPDTE:/ 081508
TO ALL PILOTS: *
THIS MORNING (8-1) AT 9 AM WAS THE FIRST DEADLINE FOR *
SUBMITTING A REQUEST FOR VOLUNTARY FURLOUGH OR SPECIAL *
PERSONAL LEAVE. *
*
WE RECEIVED 49 REQUESTS FOR VOLUNTARY FURLOUGH, ALL OF WHICH *
WILL BE AWARDED. WE ALSO RECEIVED 49 REQUESTS FOR SPECIAL *
PERSONAL LEAVE. ALL 49 OF THOSE REQUESTS WILL BE AWARDED, *
WITH MOST START DATES APPROVED AS REQUESTED. HOWEVER, SOME *
START DATES WILL BE MODIFIED TO REFLECT NEEDS OF THE SERVICE *
(AS PERMITTED IN THE ALPA AGREEMENT). *
*
YOUR FLIGHT OFFICE WILL BE CONTACTING ALL IMPACTED PILOTS IN *
THE NEXT COUPLE OF WORK DAYS WITH A FORMAL NOTIFICATION. *
*
ALMOST ALL PILOTS WHO HAVE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF INVOLUNTARY *
FURLOUGH WILL HAVE THEIR CURRENT FURLOUGH DATE ADJUSTED OR *
CANCELED, AS A RESULT OF THE SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF VOLUNTARY *
FURLOUGHS. CALLS TO THOSE PILOTS HAVE ALREADY BEGUN. *
*
I WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAILS IN THE AUGUST 2008 EDITION OF THE *
FLIGHT PLAN, TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. *
*
PAUL *


Anybody heard anything? Wish ualmec forum was still running.

BoredwLife

If its true, good news for you all!!!!

SKMarz

It is true, but keep in mind there were 950 on the chopping block, this is nothing more than a short reprieve. In reality, I was actually very disappointed by the LOA numbers. I believe 163 took the last one (in 2005), so while 49 is a start, it's not exactly what we had hoped for. Hopefully, more will take it in the future.

HSLD

How does the UAL furlough mitigation letter work in terms of volunteers? Are the volunteers recalled by the seniority of the furloughee for which they've volunteered?

If so, do you think some guys would wait a little longer to volunteer for furlough [for a more senior furloughee]? This would allow an earlier recall for a volunteer with the ability to bypass until all furloghees are called back....right? I'd guess more pilots will take the voluntary furlough but are waiting to get a more senior number.

It seems like a volunteer would have more options by waiting a bit.

Dicecal

Anybody heard anything? Wish ualmec forum was still running.[/quote]

The forum is back up and running..

joepilot

The voluntary furloughees are recalled based on their own senority dates (with bypass rights), but only when United decides to recall. The voluntary furloughees get furlough pay. The pilots that take a voluntary leave of abscence have a firm return date, even if United is not recalling. They do not get furlough pay. They both keep United pass travel priveleges, but not offline.

Might not be a bad deal if you wanted to go to law school or finish up your twenty on active duty for retirement.

ugleeual

Forum is back up... but nobody is on it...

Short Bus Drive

"Fuzzy math"?

49+49=98 NO?

That's the way I read it. 49 voluntary furloughs, and an ADDITIONAL 49 LOA's?
Maybe I'll get to stick around another month (or 3?). Just need to the end of the year (or until I get another job).

SKMarz

Actually, I had just been referring to the LOAs, Voluntary Furloughs are quite different because it doesn't lower the OVERALL furlough numbers. I sincerely hope the voluntary furloughs at least keep people (who want to be here) on property longer.

I had mistakenly believed more folks would take the special LOAs, which directly lowers the furlough numbers. I am very happy for those who just got a reprieve but I still feel like a Damocles sword is hanging over my head.

jsled

It is actually just the opposite. The LOA does not offset furloughs, at least it does not mention it in the TA. The voluntary furlough does offset furloughs. Here is an except from the TA...

Voluntary furloughs will offset any involuntary furloughs with the same effective date on a one for one basis, on a seniority basis.