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careerpilot 10-17-2006 07:40 PM

American Eagle desparate for pilots
 
American Eagle has informed employees to refer their friends for pilot positions. American Eagle is currently short staffed and are expecting to have 450 captain positions open up to do American Airline pilots returning to AA. AMR corporation has anounced that American Airlines will begin recalling furloughed pilots as of Jan 2007. For those of you who are interested you can apply at www.aa.com by clicking American Eagle careers link. Good luck.

cactusmike 10-17-2006 10:21 PM

AA is the last major to recall. I have a friend on the 75/76 and he was 100 numbers from upgrade before the cuts. Of course, we have TWA guys here who will never accept a AA recall unless the wheels fall off here. You just never know in this business.

Tinpusher007 10-18-2006 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 70428)
American Eagle has informed employees to refer their friends for pilot positions. American Eagle is currently short staffed and are expecting to have 450 captain positions open up to do American Airline pilots returning to AA. AMR corporation has anounced that American Airlines will begin recalling furloughed pilots as of Jan 2007. For those of you who are interested you can apply at www.aa.com by clicking American Eagle careers link. Good luck.

Yes, but AA has some 2800 pilots on furlough, calling back some and getting them to actually return is going to take a while. I'd guess it will be a looooong while before the current trend is reversed and there is any upflow to AA from Eagle.

careerpilot 11-28-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 70514)
Yes, but AA has some 2800 pilots on furlough, calling back some and getting them to actually return is going to take a while. I'd guess it will be a looooong while before the current trend is reversed and there is any upflow to AA from Eagle.

The upflow has already began. Most of the recalled pilots are deferring but the flow backs at Eagle can not defer unless they want to hold what their Eagle senority can hold and that is FO.

swaayze 11-29-2006 04:24 PM

Yes, 3 of 346 leaving Jan 3 is the rumor. Possibly more on Jan 31. Feel the whiplash! The real problem is that we cannot upgrade FOs to replace them because we're too short of FOs (and evidently falling farther behind every month).

Granted it's a start, but don't be fooled. It will likely take 2-3 years for us to be rid of all the flowbacks.

Mink 12-01-2006 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by swaayze (Post 86336)
Granted it's a start, but don't be fooled. It will likely take 2-3 years for us to be rid of all the flowbacks.

Hmm. I wonder if the Eagle flowthroughs were treated with such warmth at AA when things were working in their favor?

ToiletDuck 12-01-2006 10:00 PM

Tell them to up the pay first. I'm not their biatch

Mr. Irrelevant 12-02-2006 08:03 PM

Hell, I know a CFI that makes far more then he would if he went to work for American Eagle. They have an FO shortage because it is a lousy place to work. Not too difficult to figure out. Careerpilot posts this stuff weekly.

Mr. I.

av8r4aa 12-02-2006 09:28 PM

Eagle the Beagle
 
American Eagle is a crappy job.
No question about that. Just get hired
and get lots of Jet turbine time and leave.

perfect job for the low time pilot. Not my choice
of a job to retire at but get your time up and get something
better. I guess if you are looking for the PIC time Eagle
may not be a good choice. Most CFI's from my era weren't
even allowed to look at Turbine aircraft, let alone
Jets.

buddies8 12-02-2006 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 87721)
And this is comming from a CFI?


Certified F+++en Idiot

need I say more.

HotMamaPilot 12-03-2006 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Irrelevant (Post 87778)
Hell, I know a CFI that makes far more then he would if he went to work for American Eagle. They have an FO shortage because it is a lousy place to work. Not too difficult to figure out. Careerpilot posts this stuff weekly.

Mr. I.

ya, he makes more but how many hours a day/month does he work? is he pay protected? does he get benefits? how many students are trying to kill him? how many days does he get cancelled for wx? you catch my drift?

swaayze 12-04-2006 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mink (Post 87495)
Hmm. I wonder if the Eagle flowthroughs were treated with such warmth at AA when things were working in their favor?

I'm sorry, did I say something bad about the flowbacks? Please don't assume I treat them poorly or dislike them because I use the word "rid". In fact, I can very closely relate to them, have never said or done one thing negative regarding them, and I am actually happy for them that they got a chance to have a decent job after being kicked to the curb.

Does that mean I don't want them to move on back so I can gain a little seniority? Nope.

swaayze 12-04-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by av8r4aa (Post 87803)
American Eagle is a crappy job.
No question about that.

and from Mr. I

They have an FO shortage because it is a lousy place to work. Not too difficult to figure out.

Those are personal opinions based on what's important to you individually. I assume you've both worked here?

My opinion is that Eagle is a decent place to work if you value things other than rapid turbine PIC accumulation. I have passed on other opportunities and continue to do so because Eagle allows me some QOL that I wouldn't get elsewhere. Maybe I'm just severely dain bramaged, but having worked for a number of airlines I do think I have a clue.

Bottom line is that each person needs to view any given position from the perspective of how it works for them.

rlkrutenat 03-07-2007 07:44 PM

After 10 years: $90k, in a hotel room only 2 nights a week, have fun with the wife and kids, excellent equipment, safety is always number 1, ALPA represented, great travel capability.

What's so crappy about that? Eagle is a good place to be for a lot of folks.

I have absolutely no need to drive a boeing or airbus (although it would be nice). I have no desire to fly to Shanghai. My butt gets tired after 2 hour flights anyway.

Swedish Blender 03-07-2007 10:00 PM

I don't know about Swaayze, but rlkrutenat is brain damaged. Trust me, I used to throw gear for him.;)

IMHO, having been to 4 airlines, Eagle is a great place to work. It does not offer a fast upgrade, never really has. 2 years or so at the fastest (after merging lists). No matter how hard someone tries, not everyone will make it to the majors. There are definately worse places to be "stuck" at for your career.

Rich, it is easier on those long flights when you see Maui on the horizon.:D

swaayze 03-08-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rlkrutenat (Post 130155)
After 10 years: $90k, in a hotel room only 2 nights a week, have fun with the wife and kids, excellent equipment, safety is always number 1, ALPA represented, great travel capability.

You showoff!


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