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Grumble 02-28-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Dragon7 (Post 1141784)
The exciting parts are as follows:

Fedex wants to verify your English proficiency endorsement, SWA now only counts jet time as TPIC (have sent a note to PC to verify this), and Mark Perry Airlines wants to know your favorite color and what is your quest.

Somewhere they wanted a total instrument time and years instrument rated, and the flightime grid requires some checking on your part.

Not kidding about Mark Perry.

D7

Some how Multi engine piston time, and helo (rotor) time are the same thing to PC... so now I have several hundred hours of helicopter time. What the hell?

Otto 02-29-2012 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1142761)
Some how Multi engine piston time, and helo (rotor) time are the same thing to PC... so now I have several hundred hours of helicopter time. What the hell?

I also don't see how they are coming up with a military conversion time as they don't give you a place to input number of sorties. Maybe they count each landing as a sortie? Great for my times but could lead to some explaining in an interview. Hmmmm.....

TimmyR 02-29-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Otto (Post 1143063)
I also don't see how they are coming up with a military conversion time as they don't give you a place to input number of sorties. Maybe they count each landing as a sortie? Great for my times but could lead to some explaining in an interview. Hmmmm.....

Otto - I e-mailed Pilot Credentials Support and am awaiting a response. I also asked if it is needed to have a resume uploaded along with other documents since it seems like all the info is now contained on the digital app. I have not received a response yet, and have changed my profile to "Draft" while I figure out how they calculate the times.

Dragon7 02-29-2012 04:51 PM

Have checked it every day and every day something else is improved and something else is changed.

limelight 02-29-2012 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Dragon7 (Post 1141784)
The exciting parts are as follows:

Fedex wants to verify your English proficiency endorsement, SWA now only counts jet time as TPIC (have sent a note to PC to verify this), and Mark Perry Airlines wants to know your favorite color and what is your quest.

Somewhere they wanted a total instrument time and years instrument rated, and the flightime grid requires some checking on your part.

Not kidding about Mark Perry.

D7

So Southwest isn't going to hire Herc guys anymore, doubtful...

AF2Navy 02-29-2012 06:52 PM

BGT Rating?
 
I never saw this one before...on the certifications tab:

BGT (Basic Gas Turbine) Rating

do you select this if you've flown any turboprop or jet aircraft? I would like to think it's that simple, but you never know.

Grumble 03-01-2012 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by AF2Navy (Post 1143490)
I never saw this one before...on the certifications tab:

BGT (Basic Gas Turbine) Rating

do you select this if you've flown any turboprop or jet aircraft? I would like to think it's that simple, but you never know.

I seem to recall that being an actual rating (or written) a long time ago. Went the way of the dinosaur like the FE is, kind of. I could be way off.

If you go back and look too, the sortie thing has been fixed. There is a place to input the specific numbers now.

They've also added more aircraft types... should input every single one of them, or can you just roll all of, say single piston in the general "single piston" category?

No column for actual total time either. Resume section? Will only SWA see that? If FedEx looks at your profile will they see your SWA resume?

Very confusing all the way around.

KC10 FATboy 03-01-2012 12:39 AM

Yes. I agree that the new update has really screwed up a lot of things.

Also, I am extremely confused now by SWA's flying time requirement for military; more specifically, USAF.

**PIC for this purpose is defined as Captain/Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls. For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot in Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander n the appropriate aircraft. Time logged as "Other Time" will not be considered.

First, they define PIC as the CA/AC of record, not sole manipulator of the controls. Then, they state that for USAF, Primary time (which is defined as sole manipulator of the controls), will only be used for PIC time (so what about the time you were the PIC but were monitoring ?) Confused yet? It gets better. Then they want you to throw out "Other time" which most folks do. But in doing so, you've already defined PIC as CA/AC of record.

The presents a huge snafu for USAF heavy guys. First you get double penalized (only count PRI and don't count OTHER). Second, it glosses over the fact that heavy civilian pilots who deal with operations where relief pilots are involved, are probably logging PIC/SIC while they're not in the seat.

Not that I am sue happy, but I wonder if someone who is heavy military and gets the rejection letter, could make a sound argument for a lawsuit?

LuvJockey 03-01-2012 06:27 AM

I'll have to dig out my info, but I think that all time as A/C commander counts as PIC (if you sign for the aircraft, even sleeping in the back), as does all time as sole manipulator of the controls once you are qualified as A/C commander.

I think that you're misinterpreting the rule, it isn't spelled out very well.

xjtguy 03-01-2012 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Otto (Post 1143063)
I also don't see how they are coming up with a military conversion time as they don't give you a place to input number of sorties. Maybe they count each landing as a sortie? Great for my times but could lead to some explaining in an interview. Hmmmm.....


*NOTICE* - In order to better support varying methods of military sortie conversion factors, we ask that you indicate aircraft where military sorties were flown. For each aircraft containing sortie flight hours, any conversion factor previously applied needs to be replaced with actual flight hours and the 'sortie' check-box needs to be checked. Once checked, you will be able to enter the number of sortie flights for subsequent conversion.
Once you check the "sorties flown" box you'll get a drop down box to input the total numbers of sorties flown. Seems as if it's broken down by PIC, SIC, Inst, etc after that for each aircraft flown.


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