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mike734 03-18-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 1153780)
Still using the "Silver Bullet" method?

The Silver Bullet was the Cheif Pilot's gig. We have a new CP these days. He has only been in office a month or two so he's just getting around to making it his own. I have not heard, but I wouldn't be surprised if he set up some sort of referral system.

We are going to hire quite a few pilots over the next few years. Right now it's locals, friends and family, Horizon pilots etc. it won't be long before they have to start looking a little farther afield. if you want to work here, keep up the letters and applications. When I got interviewed many years ago they had every scrap of paper I had ever sent them in my file. Alaska has a long memory.

mike734 03-18-2012 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by cesnacaptn (Post 1153779)
I'm guessing, with all of this movement, new-hires should be able to get their desired base within a year. Then again, what do I know. These past 5 years have taught me that anything can happen.

Amen brother.

GQpilot 03-18-2012 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by cesnacaptn (Post 1153779)
Were you already working for AWA/US during our last hiring wave? I talked to the HR manager in charge of pilot hiring back then and she couldn't understand why a pilot would want to move from one "major" to another. She even asked me about an applicant I knew personally and asked why that person would want to leave Jetblue for Alaska (as if I could answer that question for someone).

Try not to feel too bitter about the ex-SkyWest pilot. People get hired at their second or third choice airline all the time. Perhaps that's what happened to you. Plus these past few years haven't been too kind to those on the bottom 10-15% of the list. Until our recent contract, we were making half of what SWA pilots were and we were facing furloughs or displacements. I bet if you talked to that same pilot today, he'd be singing a different tune about SWA. Things have started to stabilize around here and pilots are always happier when their seniority is moving in the right direction.

As far as the latest hiring rumors go: I talked to the SEA/PDX BCP last week. He said new-hire classes resume in August with the goal of either 60 or 66 pilots new additions by the end of the year. Next year's goal is around 140. He even hinted that we might need to use Boeing sims for the additional capacity. Like Mike said, basically, they're running 10+ new-hires per month with no end in sight.

I'm guessing, with all of this movement, new-hires should be able to get their desired base within a year. Then again, what do I know. These past 5 years have taught me that anything can happen.

When I got hired at AWA, AS was taking a break in hiring and I felt I'd waited long enough. I was already 30 and had worked my way up to CP at the commuter I was at. Most of my time at the commuter I was a check airman. I sat there for one full hiring wave, trying to do all I could to get on at AS, Women in Aviation conferences, personal recs, and etc, never got a call. The culture at AWA has turned so toxic, because of the east-west conflict, I'd toss my 9 years seniority and go to Alaska in a heartbeat. If I couldn't get a call in my prime, I doubt an old guy like me pushing 40 would get on now. Hopefully things will at some point start to improve here at US. Best of luck to the AS new hires, you lucky basterds:D!

jacjetlag 03-18-2012 12:49 PM

Sounds a little chummy, inbred, networked. A little , "Hire me, I'm a friend of your buddy" stuff going on.

Not that there is anything wrong with that....most flying jobs are like that anyway.

HotMamaPilot 03-18-2012 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by GQpilot (Post 1153856)
When I got hired at AWA, AS was taking a break in hiring and I felt I'd waited long enough. I was already 30 and had worked my way up to CP at the commuter I was at. Most of my time at the commuter I was a check airman. I sat there for one full hiring wave, trying to do all I could to get on at AS, Women in Aviation conferences, personal recs, and etc, never got a call. The culture at AWA has turned so toxic, because of the east-west conflict, I'd toss my 9 years seniority and go to Alaska in a heartbeat. If I couldn't get a call in my prime, I doubt an old guy like me pushing 40 would get on now. Hopefully things will at some point start to improve here at US. Best of luck to the AS new hires, you lucky basterds:D!

They can't NOT interview you because of your age. That is discrimination. So, please don't think that.

Rabid Seagull 03-18-2012 02:25 PM

Do you know if the Alaskan* Interview/ HR people consider the Hilltop area of Tacoma part of Gig Harbor?

Would it help my chances if I took Fish Freighter out to lunch at Ivar's?

* I do it because I'll enjoy the next few pages of complaints being called a great, full bodied, perfect on a summer day, beer. It could be worse, your company could be called Rainier. Now that's a beer to cry over/ on.:eek:

...good to see the hiring.

pokey9554 03-18-2012 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 1153475)
Congrats to all, for the Gig Harbor guys, beers at the Tides on me!

I'm at Tides waiting!

GQpilot 03-18-2012 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 1153881)
They can't NOT interview you because of your age. That is discrimination. So, please don't think that.

Yeah, I know it is, but it still inadvertently happens. I used to be part of the hiring process and I can remember HR stating they wanted to hire within a certain experience range. This didn't absolutely preclude older guys, but it sure took the majority out.
Unfortunately, the rules don't always preclude people from doing the wrong thing.

cesnacaptn 03-18-2012 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by GQpilot (Post 1153903)
Yeah, I know it is, but it still inadvertently happens. I used to be part of the hiring process and I can remember HR stating they wanted to hire within a certain experience range. This didn't absolutely preclude older guys, but it sure took the majority out.
Unfortunately, the rules don't always preclude people from doing the wrong thing.

I don't get the sense that Alaska's range is that narrow. In my new-hire class, we had an ex-Horizon-furloughed United-SkyWest pilot from the Puget Sound area. I know I can look it up, but I would guess that he was in his 40s with 10-15,000 hours.

FlightDirectorOff 03-18-2012 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by GQpilot (Post 1153856)
I doubt an old guy like me pushing 40 would get on now.

You just never know. One of my classmates was 48 when I got hired in '01.
We were told in recurrent ground school last week that 350+ pilots are on the way. I'll believe that when I see it!:rolleyes:


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