Weird, I thought I offered up some concilliatory words, juts before Mookie chose to urinate on Delta pilots.

I'm not saying it'll be Delta... but if you've got a pretty good thing going, and you're happy working at your company, and you're in a pretty benign, tolerant environment (has to be, to accept cute sexual-revolution-forward nicknames like "Mookie"), and your company is doing well... that's a sure sign there's an executive somewhere that will not let this stand.

At any rate, I think the title of this thread is arrogant, but I notice Arrogance Goes Around. Like Good used to, but faster...

I love how cocky the Jr Delta guys are. Were you guys not in bankruptcy protection like a week ago?? Maybe it just seems that way. I'd worry more about your senior guys selling you out for scope so they can pad their lake house fund.

Mookie

I worry about that too. Speaking of scope, how strong is AS scope?

Your company is getting a 3:1 windfall over DL right now with this mostly one sided code share and you can't understand why DL pilots are upset about that. You then try to turn it into a DL arrogance/AS pride situation.

So how do you think the SLI should go? I'm thinking a ratio at the 737 level after all equivalent positions above are stapled to the top, with all AS new hires stapled to the bottom no matter how many that ends up being, and long, wide, tall, thick fences for 20 years or so.

Thoughts?

Flaps,

Back in the late 1980's Delta purchased Western Airlines. At the time Western was the largest carrier at LAX and had an extensive route network across the western US and some Canadian cities as well.

Western also had a significant presence in Alaska by virtue of their purchase of PNA (Pacific Northern Airlines) in 1967.

So yes, many (if not most) Delta pilots resent the growth of Alaska at the expense of Delta pilot jobs, and history backs up their contention.

If you look at the history of Alaska Airlines at the time of deregulation you had a whopping ten airplanes and the only city you served in the lower 48 was Seattle...

This thread needs to die. It serves no purpose. :cool:

No alaska 'pride' thing here, just delta arrogance to anything and everything aviation. It has little to do with this situation right here.

I'll worry about sli when the time comes...you guys are aware that not every pilot in the planet wants to fly for Delta, right?

Mookie

Couldn't agree more.

Absolutely. I feel like being arrogant somewhere else. You in?

HILARIOUS!! You guys sound like a bunch of regional pilots:eek:

Delta pilots REALLY ARE the most arrogant group of paid servants.

PtP

Do the math Mook. "Niche" carriers, like Alaska, are going away. Even SWA figured that out. You'll get absorbed at some point. Who do you want to do the absorbing? AA/USA/America West? Yeah, that'd be pretty. UCAL? They can't get their **** together either. OR, the two legacies that pulled off the most seamless and profitable merger in airline history?

You guys are awesome. We're code sharing and it's mutually beneficial. Don't know if you've been thru LAX lately but if you see don't we're attached at the hip, you're insane. Welcome aboard. You'll like it.