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Check Essential 06-01-2012 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1202956)
You know if this is true, Everything Joe Merchant ever said is true...and that extremely annoying american eagle flow up coining the term "airlinus pilotus" was also right.

Its that rocking chair.
Management knew exactly who they were hiring.

iceman49 06-01-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1202994)
Its that rocking chair.
Management knew exactly who they were hiring.

.....................

JungleBus 06-01-2012 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1202994)
Its that rocking chair.
Management knew exactly who they were hiring.

If the reports of DTW being a love-fest are correct, the rocking chair doesn't quite explain it - most guys up there never sat in the rocking chair. And the CVG roadshow was supposedly fairly heated.

Let's see whether this thing passes and by how much before you turn the guns inward. And when you do, I hope they're mostly aimed at the MEC administration that pulled of their little fait accompli.

Bill Lumberg 06-01-2012 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by kiteflyer (Post 1202889)
the 325 - large gauge RJ's allowed by this TA are replacement Narrow body flying.

Anyone who says differently is ignorant of the facts.

Sooooooo, you want to keep the money losing 50 seaters? 311 are attached to leases through 2015 and beyond. Instead, there could be 125 total, and 70 seaters (102 of them) could fill in on outgoing 50 seat routes. They won't just drop the routes that the 150 50 seaters are currently flying. Maybe then those routes can make more profits. That helps everyone. Where would the 717s fly to? Maybe current 76 seat routes that could make even more money? Now you are starting to understand.

CVG767A 06-02-2012 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 1202959)
HUSH!!! Don't lure him back !!!

That's like saying beetlejuice...

He was no worse than several people on here; maybe the problem was that you didn't share his views?

CVG767A 06-02-2012 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1202967)
If DTW is signing off on the TA, it's a lost cause.

Maybe. I'm wondering how well attended it was. Did the diehard no voters stay away?

shiznit 06-02-2012 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1203089)
If the reports of DTW being a love-fest are correct, the rocking chair doesn't quite explain it - most guys up there never sat in the rocking chair. And the CVG roadshow was supposedly fairly heated.

Let's see whether this thing passes and by how much before you turn the guns inward. And when you do, I hope they're mostly aimed at the MEC administration that pulled of their little fait accompli.

GO BACK TO YOUR OWN BOARD. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

When you are actually a Delta Pilot and have spent time at an LEC meeting as a member, communicating with, and voting for the LEC representatives..... (Ya know the people who have spent time debating and ultimately selecting the MEC Chairman) then you can speak on Delta Pilot issues.

Go raise the bar as you see fit at your own airline.

CVG767A 06-02-2012 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1203143)
GO BACK TO YOUR OWN BOARD. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

When you are actually a Delta Pilot and have spent time at an LEC meeting as a member, communicating with, and voting for the LEC representatives..... (Ya know the people who have spent time debating and ultimately selecting the MEC Chairman) then you can speak on Delta Pilot issues.

Go raise the bar as you see fit at your own airline.

Exactly!..

Doug Masters 06-02-2012 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1202994)
Its that rocking chair.
Management knew exactly who they were hiring.

I was hired after the rocking chair thingy, therefore, NO.

DAWGS 06-02-2012 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1203096)
Sooooooo, you want to keep the money losing 50 seaters? 311 are attached to leases through 2015 and beyond. Instead, there could be 125 total, and 70 seaters (102 of them) could fill in on outgoing 50 seat routes. They won't just drop the routes that the 150 50 seaters are currently flying. Maybe then those routes can make more profits. That helps everyone. Where would the 717s fly to? Maybe current 76 seat routes that could make even more money? Now you are starting to understand.

I don't think he will understand making our outsourced jobs more profitable. I know I don't. The point is quite the opposite. As a group, we want those jobs in house and being the money-losers that they are is a win for us. MGT just might change their business plan. This bind they are in now was their own doing and one of the downsides of the outsource and whipsaw scheme. We can fly the 76 seaters profitably. I know it to be a fact. You know what would make the company wildly profitable....outsource all our flying to the lowest bidder. You advocating for these NB replacements takes us closer to that MGT goal. It has to stop. Stopping requires decelerating.....more 76 seaters is accelerating towards MGTs goal of outsourcing our domestic system. 76 seaters are capable....50s are not.


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