FA's and KCM
06-25-2012, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
(Interesting that HIS post referencing "fogged mirrors and 50 lbs. didn't offend you.)
I did not intend for this to become a ****ing match about who can do who's job. I never expected FA input on a PILOT forum.
06-25-2012, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by captnmajic
I also thought this was a forum for pilots, by pilots. Want to get an attitude with pilots? Tell you what. Let's trade jobs for one day only. I bet I could likely do your job without too many people noticing that I'm not a real flight attendant, but I'd be willing to bet an entire month's paycheck that if you tried to do my job, everyone would immediately notice that you weren't a real pilot.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to beat up on flight attendants. Many are more educated and trained in other areas than I will ever be. All I'm saying is that a pilot can do a flight attendant's job, but I seriously doubt many of you could do our job without the years of training that we receive. Not being snarky, but what I'm saying is simply a fact.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to beat up on flight attendants. Many are more educated and trained in other areas than I will ever be. All I'm saying is that a pilot can do a flight attendant's job, but I seriously doubt many of you could do our job without the years of training that we receive. Not being snarky, but what I'm saying is simply a fact.
I've just stated facts, offered my opinion which as USMCFlyer confirmed I am able to do. YOU guys are the ones with the nasty, disrespectful comments.
06-25-2012, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
This forum encourages participation of all persons with an interest in aviation which is why we have a variety of forums. As long as all members follow the established TOS, participation is welcomed.
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I thought back when I signed up the TOS said you had to be a pilot. Of course I know there is no way of verifying this for sure. But, am I wrong, was that not in the TOS at one point?
06-25-2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by expectholding
It didnt offend me because it was fact. Again, I solicited input from pilots. Too bad there isn't an ignore button.
I did not intend for this to become a ****ing match about who can do who's job. I never expected FA input on a PILOT forum.
I did not intend for this to become a ****ing match about who can do who's job. I never expected FA input on a PILOT forum.
Sorry I ruined your good ol' boys club. You can always put me on your ignore list.
06-25-2012, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
I've been civil. I don't have "an attitude with pilots." Never have, never will. Many of my best friends are pilots and I happen to be in a long-term relationship with one.
I've just stated facts, offered my opinion which as USMCFlyer confirmed I am able to do. YOU guys are the ones with the nasty, disrespectful comments.
I've just stated facts, offered my opinion which as USMCFlyer confirmed I am able to do. YOU guys are the ones with the nasty, disrespectful comments.
Anyway, PILOTS, anybody care to share their concerns about FA's in KCM?
06-25-2012, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by expectholding
I personally don't care how civil you are. Nobody has been nasty, but if you think you can get on a pilot forum and play the "I am so important" crap and not get an unwelcoming response, you're wrong. The plane will fly without you.
Anyway, PILOTS, anybody care to share their concerns about FA's in KCM?
Anyway, PILOTS, anybody care to share their concerns about FA's in KCM?
06-25-2012, 07:45 AM
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I could understand the frustration at the system though. I dont want to post too much detail but I can think of an airport that even the Burger King employees can bypass security. I can think of others that an FA might go through OPS instead of security. This is all posted multiple times on many forums, its not new info. I could understand their frustration at the system.
06-25-2012, 08:02 AM
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What a bunch of arrogant a-holes around here.
If FA's, ATC, etc.... want to participate in this discussion board, more power to them. You certainly don't need to agree with their opinions, but to outright say they don't belong is preposterous. Having a wealth of information, from multiple perspectives, offers a well-rounded community.
I don't think FA's should be allowed through KCM, for many of the reasons cited here. However, those that suggest only pilots belong on this board should be ashamed of themselves. Ignorance at it's finest......
LNL76....Welcome! Not all pilots feel the same way as some around here.
If FA's, ATC, etc.... want to participate in this discussion board, more power to them. You certainly don't need to agree with their opinions, but to outright say they don't belong is preposterous. Having a wealth of information, from multiple perspectives, offers a well-rounded community.
I don't think FA's should be allowed through KCM, for many of the reasons cited here. However, those that suggest only pilots belong on this board should be ashamed of themselves. Ignorance at it's finest......
LNL76....Welcome! Not all pilots feel the same way as some around here.
06-25-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
What a bunch of arrogant a-holes around here.
If FA's, ATC, etc.... want to participate in this discussion board, more power to them. You certainly don't need to agree with their opinions, but to outright say they don't belong is preposterous. Having a wealth of information, from multiple perspectives, offers a well-rounded community.
I don't think FA's should be allowed through KCM, for many of the reasons cited here. However, those that suggest only pilots belong on this board should be ashamed of themselves. Ignorance at it's finest.....
LNL76....Welcome! Not all pilots feel the same way as some around here.
If FA's, ATC, etc.... want to participate in this discussion board, more power to them. You certainly don't need to agree with their opinions, but to outright say they don't belong is preposterous. Having a wealth of information, from multiple perspectives, offers a well-rounded community.
I don't think FA's should be allowed through KCM, for many of the reasons cited here. However, those that suggest only pilots belong on this board should be ashamed of themselves. Ignorance at it's finest.....
LNL76....Welcome! Not all pilots feel the same way as some around here.
Thank you, but I already knew that!
You were always a class act when we were fellow crew members.....
06-25-2012, 08:07 AM
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LNL76,
Look at how you responded to captnmajic. captmajic wasn't being "nasty or disrespectful" at all. You're not being taken too seriously because your tone is one of preconceived notions and having a chip on your shoulder.
Look at how you responded to captnmajic. captmajic wasn't being "nasty or disrespectful" at all. You're not being taken too seriously because your tone is one of preconceived notions and having a chip on your shoulder.
Originally Posted by captnmajic
I also thought this was a forum for pilots, by pilots. Want to get an attitude with pilots? Tell you what. Let's trade jobs for one day only. I bet I could likely do your job without too many people noticing that I'm not a real flight attendant, but I'd be willing to bet an entire month's paycheck that if you tried to do my job, everyone would immediately notice that you weren't a real pilot.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to beat up on flight attendants. Many are more educated and trained in other areas than I will ever be. All I'm saying is that a pilot can do a flight attendant's job, but I seriously doubt many of you could do our job without the years of training that we receive. Not being snarky, but what I'm saying is simply a fact.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to beat up on flight attendants. Many are more educated and trained in other areas than I will ever be. All I'm saying is that a pilot can do a flight attendant's job, but I seriously doubt many of you could do our job without the years of training that we receive. Not being snarky, but what I'm saying is simply a fact.
Originally Posted by LNL76
I've been civil. I don't have "an attitude with pilots." Never have, never will. Many of my best friends are pilots and I happen to be in a long-term relationship with one.
I've just stated facts, offered my opinion which as USMCFlyer confirmed I am able to do. YOU guys are the ones with the nasty, disrespectful comments.
I've just stated facts, offered my opinion which as USMCFlyer confirmed I am able to do. YOU guys are the ones with the nasty, disrespectful comments.
