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tsquare 07-01-2012 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1223029)
You know the vote is over right? There is no need for the hyperbole anymore.

Try the ignore feature. Wonderful tool it is..

acl65pilot 07-02-2012 03:13 AM

Bacon, learn to chill out. I would call what you are doing as borderline harassment.

beeker 07-02-2012 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1223029)
You know the vote is over right? There is no need for the hyperbole anymore.

What are you talking about Hyperbole is what makes this site and modern news have any value?!?!?!?!?

FailOperational 08-21-2012 10:23 AM

what's the monthly guarantee? and what's the reserve?

Justdoinmyjob 08-21-2012 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by FailOperational (Post 1249246)
what's the monthly guarantee? and what's the reserve?

??
Reserve is ALV-2 from 72 to 80, so anywhere between those two values on a monthly basis.

Line holder is still 65, I think.

pilotgolfer 08-25-2012 02:29 PM

I think it's great that the new hire rate is over 70 an hour. I hope that trend continues in the UAL contract.

IAHB756 08-31-2012 11:41 AM

I hope our lineholder guarantee is much higher than 65 hours. That is terrible.

XtremeF150 08-31-2012 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by IAHB756 (Post 1254180)
I hope our lineholder guarantee is much higher than 65 hours. That is terrible.

That really never comes to pass anyway. lines are always built to more than that and then you have your line guarantee as constructed. However that is lower than most of the regionals if the company if decided to build them that low.
I doubt with RSV never falling below 72 now that lines will go much below that if at all.

gloopy 09-01-2012 10:55 AM

The company doesn't want 65 hour lines in most cases. That is very unproductive. Keeping in mind that DL does a lot of different types of ops (high cycle domestic as well as long haul international including 12 day trips, etc) there has to be a low guarantee as a catch all. It also helps serve as a small accumulator to potentially mitigate furloughs, downgrades and lineholders getting bumped to reserve during lean times.

There are very few pilots at DL unwillingly only getting 65 hours of pay. A much higher priority is continuing to raise average daily credit/min day and vacation credit. The company always has incentive to fly the vast majority of its pilots higher than 65 hours a month credit so that problem will, as it always does, take care of itself.

forgot to bid 09-02-2012 11:15 AM

Fwiw, I took a quick sample of line values from the September bid awards for the ATL B MD88, 737 and 777.

What I found is this:
MD88
  • 441 lines and 78 reserves, 519 total kick ass afraid of nothing except ALT ARM on the MD90 FOs with rock solid left arms holding the starter switch open,
  • 33% of lines are worth 65-70 hours,
  • 32% of lines are worth 70-75 hours,
  • 35% of lines are worth 75-80 hours, none above, and
  • 10% of all 441 lines awarded were worth 65-66 hours.

    737
  • 235 lines and 56 reserves for a total of 291 really squished FOs.
  • 18% are worth between 65-70 hours,
  • 36% are worth between 70-75 hours,
  • 31% are worth between 75-80 hours,
  • 15% are worth more than 80-82 hours with one at 84.

    777
  • 166 lines and 34 on reserve for a total of 200 bored simulator for currency champs.
  • 11% of the lines are between 65-70 hours,
  • 18% are between 70-75 hours,
  • 49% are between 75-80 hours,
  • 22% are between 80-90 hours,
  • 1 pilot has a 92 hour line, and
  • The two highest pilots including the one with the 92 hour line are on vacation. The 92 hour line pilot is on PVAC from Sep 1-29.

Hope that adds to the conversation.


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