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SuperConductor 07-07-2012 11:10 AM

Don't be the Enemy
 
The last thread I found addressing this was a few years old, so I thought I might start a new one here.

"If a greyhound captain can be called a glorified fairy-boat skipper, if an eagle can be called a glorified sparrow, then a scheduled air-transport pilot can be called a glorified chauffeur." - New York Times (1933),

More specifically,

"La Guardia responded with his usual pugnacity when he discovered that Title III of the operators proposed code establish 140 hours per month as the maximum and $250 a month as the minimum pay...Frederick W. Coburn the industry spokes person insisted the hour and wage provisions were simply minimums and maximums and he ridiculed the idea that the major operators would ever pay their pilots so little or have them work so hard.

La Guardia displayed his usual histrionics when he attacked the contentions and he had a telling argument when he pointed out, in the codes so far adopted, the working conditions and wages specified usually corresponded very closely with the actual conditions(40). La Guardia's arguments struck a responsive chord with most travelers. There was a rather general unease amongst airline patrons that the operators might unduly reduce pilot salaries, and the New York Times expressed this fear when it pointed out in the first 6 months of 1933 the airlines had flown over 25,000,000 passenger miles with only two fatalities. The newspaper attributed this safety record to pilot skills and it believed that the industry's profit level was secondary in importance to preserving "the highest type of pilot morale." (41) Indicative of the public's support of high pilot salaries even during the depression the following day the New York Times printed, "If a greyhound captain can be called a glorified ferry-boat skipper, if an eagle can be called a glorified sparrow, then a scheduled air-transport pilot can be called a glorified chauffeur."


New york Times responding to airline management's repeated use of the pejorative phrase "Glorified Chauffeur" at NRIA meetings to establish airline pilot pay-scales and working hours, 1933. (Citation - Air Transport Labor Relations, Robert W. Kaps (1997) Southern Illinois University Press)

Think twice before calling yourself a "Glorified Bus-Driver". We are not.

lolwut 07-07-2012 11:20 AM

Agreed. This even goes for your coworkers. If you call yourself a glorified bus driver, I'm going to give you a similar amount of respect as you're giving yourself.

afterburn81 07-07-2012 12:38 PM

Lol, I always went one step further completely joking of course and say that bus drivers are glorified pilots. Usually referring to the more realistic work rules and such.

galaxy flyer 07-07-2012 01:05 PM

Then, there is thread about bringing food on trips like "bus drivers" do.

GF

Farmlover 07-07-2012 01:24 PM

Well those bus driver make more than we do. So essentially we are bus drivers. Even the push crew that pushed me back yesterday makes more than I do.

SuperConductor 07-07-2012 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1226153)
Those bus driver make more than we do. So essentially we are bus drivers.

Aristotle would disagree with you bazaar logic path, me thinks. I see. So what you are paid is the sole attribute to your occupational identity? You are whatever you're paid?

SuperConductor 07-07-2012 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1226139)
Then, there is thread about bringing food on trips like "bus drivers" do.

GF

Note the lack of a galley aboard a Ford Tri-motor.

galaxy flyer 07-07-2012 05:27 PM

Say what? I believe we are out of the Tri-motor era, Ford or Boeing.

GF

tomgoodman 07-07-2012 07:36 PM

Just a glorified sailor?
 
I mentioned flying to one of my Classical Literature teachers. He made the "glorified bus driver" remark, and suggested that it would be a waste of a good education. I told him that I did admire Homer, but Homer admired Odysseus. ;)

NuGuy 07-07-2012 07:44 PM

For it is the doom of men that they forget....

Nu


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