Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1229084)

Not going to say this will happen. I would put better odds on DAL having to acquire them to get Branson to agree to JV's with Virgin Australia and Atlantic.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1229084)

VA makes a lot of sense on a few levels. They cannot grow their AS Code Share due to the limitations in the DAL/AS code share. Buying VA allows them another West Coast route structure.

Not going to say this will happen. I would put better odds on DAL having to acquire them to get Branson to agree to JV's with Virgin Australia and Atlantic.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1229119)

Staple or asset purchase and pref interviews, period. No way could we let that mess get in front of an arbitrator and let 3 year pilots jump 25 years. No way in he11.

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1229139)

Well seeing how only about 500 pilots on the DAL list hold a position that pays less than their most senior captains
(and 200 from the DAL bottom ERFO is about the same as a VX 3rd yr. CA), and DAL FO's are paid more than pretty much ANY VX FO rate,
they have nothing but narrowbodies,
and they are nonunion......:eek:

I think the "career expectations" and present compensation would make a pure "ratio" highly unlikely (3 arbitrators instead of 1 prevents wacko awards). Also, we have near unlimited legal resources for our side... What will the VX pilots do to present a case?

My proposal: Stovepipe the list, ratio the VX CA's with the 320-M90-DC9 FO's (or by DOH), staple the VX FO's. No bump, no flush, open bidding for all positions after SOC for subsequent AE/VD/MD's, no fences.

Oh, and we have some pretty nice language in the PWA now that says DAL has to accept the DALPA seniority list, as long as it complies with federal law and doesn't cause "excessive cost" to DAL to implement.:cool:

Originally Posted by colombo (Post 1229187)

You don't understand the term "career expectations".

Originally Posted by alwaysflying (Post 1229295)

Might be hard to staple a group of pilots since the enactment of Bond McCaskill, a result of the TWA/AMR merger, unless it was agreed to by the parties.