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Old 09-01-2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Wilson View Post
Unless the retirement age is changed again. That would virtually eliminate any chance of a shortage. Retirements would slow to a much more manageable pace for the airlines and they wouldnt have to drastically increase compensation and QOL. I would not be surprised at all if that is the path the airlines try to take first.
At this point if they raise the age all they will be doing is funding a de facto medical retirement program as pilots medical out and get paid til 67, 70, whatever.

Not to mention, raising it again will almost definately lead to much higher medical standards, thus pushing more pilots out sooner and for longer (in many cases on company disability which they companies will pay dearly for).

I hope it doesn't happen, and if it does they need to be forced to start over at the bottom of the list to stay, but either way that is not a nuclear answer to looming pilot hiring. Maybe a couple quarters of short term relief. Then again, that's all they seem to think about anyway.
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How many years have you waited to use this pic in a post?
Since before Rebecca Black was a superstar.
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Since before Rebecca Black was a superstar.
Ok, had to search that one, but I get it.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Wilson View Post
Unless the retirement age is changed again. That would virtually eliminate any chance of a shortage. Retirements would slow to a much more manageable pace for the airlines and they wouldnt have to drastically increase compensation and QOL. I would not be surprised at all if that is the path the airlines try to take first.
I have to say I see what you're saying, but I don't think I see it that way. Wasn't that the theory behind raising the age 60 rule to 65? I don't think it worked very well, nor would adding another couple of years. I saw earlier in this forum someone suggeted the number is 17,000 retirees in ten years. What does raising the age to 67 do? 17,000 retirees in 12 years? Not sure how it helps. Plus with how sustained the numbers last at the legacies (more than 400 a year for the next 20 years? each?), I see no relief to the airlines by doing that.
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Over ten years anything can happen. Ten years ago the RJ business needed thousands of pilots, they got them without breaking a sweat. Same thing in the next ten. AA alone was hiring a 1,000 a year from '84 to '90.

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start date for pilot shortage ?
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start date for pilot shortage ?
2/30/2013

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2/30/2013
I thought it was December 21st, this year? Or am I thinking of something else? hmmm...
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AA alone was hiring a 1,000 a year from '84 to '90.
In that time frame is when I got one of my "welcome to your last job in aviation" letters it is easier to predict volcanic eruptions people, this is all an exercise in futility.
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You got that right! I was just pointing out the futility of saying 400 new hires per company per year is easily done.

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