retirements (Real world) vs age 65..
 

I'm just curious.... mainly from those of you working at older/legacy type carriers, what are the retirements looking like in terms of "how many" are actually holding out to 65? Are you finding that there are many that medical out sooner?? or more over, are many just punching out at 62 for SSI or other 60 for military benefits?

just curious what the real world numbers will be like over the next 10 years?

Not to discourage you, but not only are most over-60 pilots not leaving early; many of them who are approaching the mandatory retirement age -- again, for the second time in five years -- are now griping that the retirement age should be raised to 70.

Or, as a fellow pilot so perfectly described the original Fly Past 60 movement many years ago: "I got mine. Now I want yours."

When pensions evaporate and bankruptcy reduces wages. Pilots will need to work longer to earn what they were promised that evaporated. Age 65 will gain momentum next year. Just a few are leaving early now.

I've not seen any over age 60 guys dropping dead, or going out on a medical, in the past 5 years. I'm sure there are a few, but not too many. Seems they all quit smoking years ago and are taking better care of themselves.

If they are 'holding out to 65', it's only because if their company went bankrupt, they have very little money to retire on.

The average overall age for retirement at delta is 62 and 7 months. That number will probably take a artificial drop for a bit since most who took the ER program were 59 to 61.

Yeah, a friend of mine just retired out of the A330 at 60 1/2.

GF

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OP

Think there's old guys in the 121 world, wait til you see the FAR 91 world, if you must. I fly with guys who aren't quitting at past 65, no mention of age to protect the not so innocent.

Long ago the fear of Age 65 was exactly predicted. Guys then didn't want it because 65 would become the standard and they wanted to retire at 60. The smart ones did by paying attention early in their careers. Stay married to Wife One, pay your taxes and don't commute. Two outta three is OK, too.

GF

The overall average retirement age is not reliable as we have had 3 early out programs.

Any attempts to translate what we've had into valid data are off base and subject to wide margin of error.

That's not fair. They "don't got theirs" anymore. It's gone. And it was never "yours." It was "theirs" and it was taken away. If "you" were "they" I think you'd get "it."