Jumpseating International on USAir or America
11-13-2012, 01:03 PM
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Jumpseating International - USAir or American
I know there is no cockpit jumpseat for an offline international jumpseater. How about if there are open seats in the back respectively on USAir and American?
Also any prelisting contact info would be a big help.
Thanks
Also any prelisting contact info would be a big help.
Thanks
Last edited by Pilot41; 11-13-2012 at 01:44 PM.
11-15-2012, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by waterboy
I dont think AA takes int'l jumpsteaters, even if there are 100 open seats in the back.
It's now 'put up or shut-up' for AA pilots and the APA. Every other major airline, as part of the HUGE cuts they took in bankruptcy, was able to secure unlimited international access for all. Sadly, AA pilots are in this exact situation, and rumor has it that AA management accepted the APA's offer. We'll soon find out if the APA secured unlimited international (I6U) for all the pilots who've graciously extended rides to AA's pilots for the last decade without full reciprocation.
Is this a big deal? Nope. But it'd be a great gain for the profession, and one of the few gains that APA can expect to achieve, given the circumstances.
Good luck, AA pilots, in your upcoming vote.
11-15-2012, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
AA has a small list of carriers that they extend international Jumpseat access to. It's pretty much Delta, United, Southwest, Fed Ex, and maybe Alaska & Hawaiian. AA management has always thought that having any access, but particularly international access on AA was a privilege to extend only to the carriers 'worthy' of it, and the APA has always maintained that using valuable bargaining leverage to secure unlimited and/or international access wasn't a good use of a scarce resource.
It's now 'put up or shut-up' for AA pilots and the APA. Every other major airline, as part of the HUGE cuts they took in bankruptcy, was able to secure unlimited international access for all. Sadly, AA pilots are in this exact situation, and rumor has it that AA management accepted the APA's offer. We'll soon find out if the APA secured unlimited international (I6U) for all the pilots who've graciously extended rides to AA's pilots for the last decade without full reciprocation.
Is this a big deal? Nope. But it'd be a great gain for the profession, and one of the few gains that APA can expect to achieve, given the circumstances.
Good luck, AA pilots, in your upcoming vote.
It's now 'put up or shut-up' for AA pilots and the APA. Every other major airline, as part of the HUGE cuts they took in bankruptcy, was able to secure unlimited international access for all. Sadly, AA pilots are in this exact situation, and rumor has it that AA management accepted the APA's offer. We'll soon find out if the APA secured unlimited international (I6U) for all the pilots who've graciously extended rides to AA's pilots for the last decade without full reciprocation.
Is this a big deal? Nope. But it'd be a great gain for the profession, and one of the few gains that APA can expect to achieve, given the circumstances.
Good luck, AA pilots, in your upcoming vote.
11-16-2012, 07:22 PM
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AA currently offers international jumpseats to pilots from nine airlines:
AirTran
Alaska
Delta
FedEx
Piedmont
PSA
Southwest
US Airways
United
For those airlines, only 1 pilot is allowed per available jumpseat on international flights, no matter how many seats are available in the cabin, and there must be a Coach or Business Class seat available to accommodate - Offline pilots will (officially, at least) not be accommodated on an international flight if the only seats available are in First Class.
AirTran
Alaska
Delta
FedEx
Piedmont
PSA
Southwest
US Airways
United
For those airlines, only 1 pilot is allowed per available jumpseat on international flights, no matter how many seats are available in the cabin, and there must be a Coach or Business Class seat available to accommodate - Offline pilots will (officially, at least) not be accommodated on an international flight if the only seats available are in First Class.
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