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Originally Posted by BenS (Post 1312630)

I have to think through all this that the importance of stowing anything and everything is important for safety. I'm probably the odd guy here, but when landing, I'll sit with my feet flat on the floor and I like it when I can have windows open next to me all for landings. Just my preference because I'd never know when the day comes that things may not go normal. You refer to the hot coffee, but I recall the lengths flight attendants go to for the sake of collecting everything they can to throw away, even saying "I need to discard that drink" and such.

From what I've gathered, flight attendants do their final sweep to make sure everything is gathered, all personal bags stowed and electronics off all for the sake of a cabin that doesn't have things left loose to either fly around or impede an exit for somebody. The previously mentioned "but infants don't need to be stowed" by someone leaves me to conclude with another point to think about. One of the flight attendants in the Sioux City crash has been an advocate for requiring all children to have a purchased seat because of those who were killed that were not restrained in a seat during the crash.

Its still very common for people to have things out, especially reading. No one, ever, ever, makes them stow that heavy Patricial Cornwell book. Ever. So that arguement is null and void. No one is going to perish from a cell phone flying around; that is a straw man if ever there was one.

I agree with you on the infants. There are some mighty big 2 year olds too. Even a short flight is pushing it. A trans con with a 1.99 year old in your lap in a middle seat on a full flight is completely unreasonable. Of course they can always get a letter from a accredited "professional" certifying it as a "comfort child" if they really wanted to. :rolleyes:

If PED's cause interference then fix the interference. People will leave them on no matter what, and either way we will have a cabin full of them in cruise. Directing them all to be turned off is a stop gap measure that will still not prevent the problem if there really even is one and even that solution will miss the mark constantly. Fix the vulnerability to the interference. The A4A will squeal money, but look how hard they fought improvements to the doors claiming they couldn't afford it.

If this is a safety issue, fix the real cause. The cat is out of the bag with cell phones and PED's. If there is a problem, fix it on our end.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1312348)

OK my bad. So we're back to the venti extra hot latte in one hand and the new hard cover crime thriller in the other. That's WAY safer. Or knitting with long sharp needles. But those iPhone missiles during an RTO, boy is that dangerous LOL!

Can you even get thru the smurf police with knitting needles these days? Thanks for the image though. I see my gramma in 8c on a 727 in 1980 with a cigarette in her mouth knitting me an ugly winter hat for Christmas.

If situational awareness on takeoff and landing are the objective, then FA's should make sure no one is sleeping, head and eyes forward, hands on their laps. Gimme a break.

Then again, according to this article, if a passenger drops their PED down an air vent the a/c might be going in sooner than expected for its D Check ;-)

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Originally Posted by lionflyer (Post 1313465)

Yes, knitting needles are allowed, with no listed length or sharpness limits.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1314022)

Yes, knitting needles are allowed, with no listed length or sharpness limits.

Did not know that. Always learning!