nightrider

Ups total for 2012 was 48 scheduled and 66 actually retired

JoeyMeatballs

Wow, DAL is retiring a helluva lotta guys between 2019 & 2026

Timbo

That's because between 1985-1991, both Delta and North West hired a whole bunch of pilots, nearly 5,000 at Delta alone, not sure how many NW hired in that time frame, but 90% of them were about age 28-32, plus or minus 4 years. The pilots from that hiring spree will be turning age 65 in 2019-26.

bgmann

Sorry guys. I should've said... These are conservative numbers. These numbers assume that every pilot retires on his/her 65th birthday. These are minimum numbers. You'll have higher numbers due to medical out, and those who are ready to RUN!!


About delta numbers: On Apc central airline pages they had two different postings for delta's numbers and then got edited with lower numbers. All these numbers on this spreadsheet have been pulled from APC.com. I just compiled them into one source so I could compare them side-by-side and see how many per year are retiring.

80ktsClamp

I've barked at them several times. I don't know what the deal is, but they keep posting the lower, invalid numbers.

What DLpilot posted is correct- I can PM you the full numbers all the way out to 2048 or 49 whenever the now youngest guy or gal will retire.

CaptCoolHand

What a troll... "hope you guys all leave so I can improve my quality of life with our sub par compensation package, I need to pay for that health care increase".

Also I'm pretty sure it has little to do with "heavy metal"... but you believe what you want.

Hope you get your wish.

FlyZ

Bgmann, if you have already typed them into a spreadsheet, any chance you could divide them by the current number of pilots to show rough percentages? That would be more meaningful as folks care about seniority progression. Thanks!

bgmann

If I understand your comment correctly I can do that. Also note that at the bottom is the percent of the pilot group retiring over the length of the years listed, so that is OVERALL. I think you want percentage that are retiring from the pilot group "per year"?

I am headed on a two-day without my laptop (thanks TSA). So I will do it when I get back.

I've been getting some PM's with retirement numbers for other airlines and will make another spreadsheet. Airlines like Skywest, American Eagle, Cathay Pacific, Pinnacolba. Some are less interesting for us, but will be fun to look at for the big picture of the numbers across the board.

Anyone have Allegiant, Hawaiian numbers?

bgmann

Cathay Pacific numbers given to me:

2012-5
2013-8
2014-11
2015-12
2016-20
2017-27
2018-20
2019-24
2020-44
2021-58
2022-53
2023-51
2024-58
2025-57
2026-58
2027-47
2028-70
2029-62
2030-73
2031-76
2032-81
2033-101
TOTAL IN 21 YEARS=1016
TOTAL GROUP=2700
37.6% OF GROUP RETIRING BY 2033


Pinnacle (P/M/C) numbers given to me:
2012-1
2013-3
2014-9
2015-6
2016-7
2017-6
2018-13
2019-13
2020-17
2021-18
2022-11
2023-14
2024-16
2025-38
2026-34
2027-39
2028-43
TOTAL IN 16 YEARS=288
TOTAL GROUP=2741
10.5% OF GROUP RETIRING BY 2028

Skywest numbers given to me:
2012-1
2013-5
2014-6
2015-9
2016-7
2017-12
2018-8
2019-13
2020-20
2021-21
TOTAL IN 9 YEARS=102
TOTAL GROUP=3263
5.0% OF GROUP RETIRING BY 2021

Attrition to majors will be the factor of course at Skywest and Pinnacle, not retirements.

American Eagle numbers will be compiled soon. They have a senior group.

KC10 FATboy

It has been said to me that at FDX over 850 pilots have reached full retirement eligibility and can retire at any time.