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Old 07-27-2005, 11:02 AM   #21  
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Also, don't discount the freight operators, as that business is fairly stable.
UPS reported a 900 million+ profit for Q2 2005. I'd say they were "fairly stable"! I think it's a matter of time before AA decides that they need more give-backs from labor, thus ending the recent labor-managment love affair over there.

Legacy carriers are having to "re-invent" themselves if they want to survive in the post 9/11 world. It's tough pill for sure, but not SWA's or anyone else's fault.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:45 PM   #22  
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Thanks for the support. I have about 10 friends working at SWA, but my desires do lie in Cargo or possibly a blue chip corporate (very tough on both ends, so I may just end up taking a full time reserve gig to accomodate AA dude).

AA dude, I'm not trying to take shots at you man. Thats not the point. Its just that your view seems a little off, and if you read the posts, it doesn't seem like I'm the only one who thinks so.

I mean really... why take a shot at me like that... I never wished you to be furloughed.

Good luck to everyone.
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:47 PM   #23  
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This crazy business sure can get people spooled up (namely me)

I really like SWA, I have several friends there. One being your training video
person (J. Fedderer) . There are some really smart people there both working stiffs and Mgmt. folks
I wish ALL readers here good will with their chosen airline or profession.

Being at the AA limits my cheering for the "other team" It is a great place to work ,As is SWA I am sure.

At the end of the day waiting for the hotel bus its the same "players"
lined up for the same bus. Just different Jerseys. Everyone just wants to get checked in and chill out a little. All the people feeling good about their day and knowing they did as good of job possible.

Yes I may sound like a raving maniac sometimes.
It is good to discuss and learn that Brand X or Brand Y all do the same job
flying the same air going to the same destinations.
I have no hard feelings about SWA or any other carrrier. I guess what would be better for me is to be able to toot my own horn a little more. instead of stepping on the other guys horn.
With the situation where it is it just seems like bad news piled upon worse.

Southwest is a WONDERFULL company . Anyone working there should be bursting with pride. It truly is the best airline in the World.
Sometimes I wonder if I should have gone there?
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:54 AM   #24  
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av8r,

It is pretty obvious that AA is head and shoulders above all the other US based full service global carriers. Love field notwithstanding, they will come roaring back to their "imperial fleet" status of past glory years and you and your pals will have a great career.
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Old 07-31-2005, 03:55 PM   #25  
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Mr. American is mad because you brought up the safety record. The fine aviators of American Airlines have looked down on the rest of us mere mortals from the time they invented flying.

If you think this "aviator" is any different from the normal american pilot mindset you are mistaken. In our "integration" the APA refered to TWA pilots as K-Mart, while they were Nordstroms. Being hired at American was like being a major league baseball player, being hired at TWA was equivalent to being the hotdog vendor.

Nope if American doesn't like the way things are going, they take their planes and go home. Just the personality they like to hire.

By the way Av8rr, didn't AA leave RDU,BNA,STL and refuse to fly to MHT, all very profitable for Southwest? Didn't AA dismantle the most efficient hub they had?

No if Southwest wants to leave SEA, best of luck to them.

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Right?
1) Ever thought of actually trying to get along with the rest of the flying community?

I would be very leary of someone who just can't play with others.

Lets get in the game and we ALL win. SWA idea is make our own rules and
ONLY SWA wins.
If you keep abreast of the newspapers you may find that the outcome just may be that SWA's willingness to throw the BS flag on Sea-Tac's expensive expansion may save ALL the airlines a bundle in new fees. Sea-Tac has announced that it is reviewing it's plans and will attempt to discover methods to reduce the overall cost to the tenant airlines.

Why didn't the other carriers complain? I'd guess its because they have no leverage to do so. Right now SWA is the only major airline with the cash to effect decisions. Their actions in Seattle, while self-serving on the surface, may have been the best for the entire industry.

Similarly, at Dallas-Fort Worth, SWA doesn't want to get roped into a situation of helping pay off a new $2 billion international terminal that they will not use. Thus, they have clearly stated that DFW is nowhere in their plans.

Airports need to realize that they are in the customer service business. Their customers are the airlines and failure to provide a satisfactory product at a competitive price will result in customer flight ... literally.
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If you keep abreast of the newspapers you may find that the outcome just may be that SWA's willingness to throw the BS flag on Sea-Tac's expensive expansion may save ALL the airlines a bundle in new fees. Sea-Tac has announced that it is reviewing it's plans and will attempt to discover methods to reduce the overall cost to the tenant airlines.

Why didn't the other carriers complain? I'd guess its because they have no leverage to do so. Right now SWA is the only major airline with the cash to effect decisions. Their actions in Seattle, while self-serving on the surface, may have been the best for the entire industry.

Similarly, at Dallas-Fort Worth, SWA doesn't want to get roped into a situation of helping pay off a new $2 billion international terminal that they will not use. Thus, they have clearly stated that DFW is nowhere in their plans.

Airports need to realize that they are in the customer service business. Their customers are the airlines and failure to provide a satisfactory product at a competitive price will result in customer flight ... literally.
Did SW ever get approved to fly into Boeing Field in the future
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How much is the cost of the third runway up to so far? its like billions isnt it? They are willing to spend all that for a runway at seatac but they cant spend anything to use Boeing field. That area around boeing field is a getto and could use the benifits of an airline in there, but all these corrupt SOBs in office at looking out for thier owners. The county doesnt want any airlines anywhere but in seatac. That way they have a monopoly and charge whatever they want.
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NO ABSOLUTELY WRONG


SWA has a lot of room to save even more.


1) Ever thought of actually trying to get along with the rest of the flying community?

I would be very leary of someone who just can't play with others.

Lets get in the game and we ALL win. SWA idea is make our own rules and
ONLY SWA wins.
Welcome to America. You're just figuring out that competition is a part of the free market?
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