JetBlue New Hire Info
02-01-2013, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Moby Dick
Sorry, Tex, but this statement is incorrect. I take it you're counting the profit sharing as retirement money. Additionally, there are 3 tiers of retirement calculators, none of which approaches 21%.
02-01-2013, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Moby Dick
Sorry, Tex, but this statement is incorrect. I take it you're counting the profit sharing as retirement money. Additionally, there are 3 tiers of retirement calculators, none of which approaches 21%.
02-01-2013, 07:24 AM
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People were given an option of staying in the A plan with a small B fund contribution, freezing their A plan and taking a larger B fund contribution or going straight B fund.
All new hires are on the straight B fund plan.
Adding the profit sharing payout to the retirement funding is somewhat erroneous because the PBP changes every year. The math in your post would be correct IF the PBP was applied to the B fund. It isn't.
All new hires are on the straight B fund plan.
Adding the profit sharing payout to the retirement funding is somewhat erroneous because the PBP changes every year. The math in your post would be correct IF the PBP was applied to the B fund. It isn't.
02-01-2013, 07:39 AM
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Guys,
Don't take any statements on here as negative or positive. These are the real and personal experiences of the pilots working for the company now, good and bad.
Just because it is what you want to hear or weren't expecting doesn't make it true of false, it is merely someone's experience. I can personally verify most of what the average applicant would call negative. None of that information is hiding on you, all you need to do is find it yourself and then you wouldn't need to believe some guy on a message board.
90% of you will feel the same way after flying the line for a month or so.
Don't take any statements on here as negative or positive. These are the real and personal experiences of the pilots working for the company now, good and bad.
Just because it is what you want to hear or weren't expecting doesn't make it true of false, it is merely someone's experience. I can personally verify most of what the average applicant would call negative. None of that information is hiding on you, all you need to do is find it yourself and then you wouldn't need to believe some guy on a message board.
90% of you will feel the same way after flying the line for a month or so.
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02-01-2013, 07:40 AM
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02-01-2013, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by txbusdriver
Okay my bad. How does it work then, B fund contributiion plus what % of profit sharing?
02-01-2013, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FNG320
JetBlue ELT has need of the aircraft to continue expansion. The A321s don't come till the end of the year and may not produce any revenue until late 4th qtr. The real problem is that JetBlue deferred too many A320s and cancelled too many A320 options, resulting in a shortage of aircraft. Thus thier only option is to accept more E190s to get airframes. However, the increase to 7 E190s is not exactly a new change. If you go back and look at earlier delivery schedules, we where origionally suppose to get 7 E190s in 2013, but later deferred some to later years. This is just returning to the original deliver scheduled for 2013 (ref the SEC filines for the last 4 years).
The real problem is that we need aircraft, any aircraft. I believe management would prefer A320s, but the only thing on our order sheet we can get is E190s. The E190s has turned into a turd. The word is that its cost per block hours is the same as the A320 (but with 50 less seats and poor reliablity). But it is better than nothing. (maybe).
Just my opinion......
FNG
The real problem is that we need aircraft, any aircraft. I believe management would prefer A320s, but the only thing on our order sheet we can get is E190s. The E190s has turned into a turd. The word is that its cost per block hours is the same as the A320 (but with 50 less seats and poor reliablity). But it is better than nothing. (maybe).
Just my opinion......
FNG
02-01-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hair-on-fire
I know, more airplanes is bad news.
02-01-2013, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Moby Dick
It is if you can't make money with them. Adding money losing airframes doesn't make much business sense.
02-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hair-on-fire
So much for you only posting "FACT" ...........
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