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Old 04-23-2014, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon7 View Post
JetBlue. The NMB let Spirit strike.
Spirit doesn't have a ton of flights in and out of JFK, either. It's one thing to let a leisure airline who's major city is FLL strike. It's another to let an airline that would throw a monkey wrench into JFK and land politicians on the news go on strike. Would we get there? Maybe, but it also depends on who's in the White House when it happens, too. We don't even know who's running yet, much less who's going to win. I wouldn't put good odds on us being allowed to strike unless we were very, VERY close to a deal since they wouldn't want the strike to last more than a couple of days. Even then, they could pull the Presidential trigger and say "Okay, you had your fun for a couple of days. Back to work." That gives them the political clout to say "I let them strike, but I also kept it under control."
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Old 04-23-2014, 04:07 AM
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Spirit doesn't have a ton of flights in and out of JFK, either. It's one thing to let a leisure airline who's major city is FLL strike. It's another to let an airline that would throw a monkey wrench into JFK and land politicians on the news go on strike. Would we get there? Maybe, but it also depends on who's in the White House when it happens, too. We don't even know who's running yet, much less who's going to win. I wouldn't put good odds on us being allowed to strike unless we were very, VERY close to a deal since they wouldn't want the strike to last more than a couple of days. Even then, they could pull the Presidential trigger and say "Okay, you had your fun for a couple of days. Back to work." That gives them the political clout to say "I let them strike, but I also kept it under control."

Why are we even talking "strike"? Seems we are starting out with the wrong attitude, strike should not even be in our thoughts at this time. We need to elect good, honest, level headed folks to represent the WHOLE pilot group. People who will work WITH the company...and let's hope and pray that the company will also want to work with the Pilots! Until then, let's keep it positive!
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
You guys don't get it. ALPA is purely a per airline union that manifests as a massive corporate entity. BIG ALPA makes a ton of dough and hob knobs with Washington. There is no real unity or brotherhood. Eagle pilots are ALPA and about to lose their jobs to a whipsaw. No one will care.
Just out of curiosity, you are obviously anti-ALPA, but you also sound very anti union. What would you propose as an alternative?

And just FWIW, The JetBlue pilots are about to get a ton of help from ALPA national, that MY dues money helped pay for. That "per airline" union you are crowing about might not be as "per airline" as you are making it out to be. You're welcome.
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
Just out of curiosity, you are obviously anti-ALPA, but you also sound very anti union. What would you propose as an alternative?

And just FWIW, The JetBlue pilots are about to get a ton of help from ALPA national, that MY dues money helped pay for. That "per airline" union you are crowing about might not be as "per airline" as you are making it out to be. You're welcome.
T-squared,

Don't be a dope. I don't believe big ALPA has any deep rooted interest in jetblue. There is going to be a transactional event at jetblue in the next 5-10 years and ALPA may help or hurt us. Now that the group had voted and we are ALPA I'm a 100% supporter of the team. Don't act all over the top with your dues. I paid ALPA dues before jetblue, so maybe I should thank myself.

-Bubs
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
T-squared,

Don't be a dope. I don't believe big ALPA has any deep rooted interest in jetblue. There is going to be a transactional event at jetblue in the next 5-10 years and ALPA may help or hurt us. Now that the group had voted and we are ALPA I'm a 100% supporter of the team. Don't act all over the top with your dues. I paid ALPA dues before jetblue, so maybe I should thank myself.

-Bubs

All vitriol aside, what is your answer to my question? Assuming you are correct in that ALPA has no real interest other than the dues, what is a better situation? Of course you acknowledged that ALPA will be helping JetBlue during this phase of transition to a CBA. What would be a better alternative?
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