Catch me if you Can-"Pilot" Sneaks on USAir
 

Nice! Hilarious and definitely Three Stooges material in this cluster.

Just get an airline shirt, bag, bogus ticket, tell em you hate Americans, and hop onboard. Now you know the proper procedure to jump seat.

Come to think of it though; he did have all the qualifications necessary to be an Air Frawnsaay peelot..oui..oui! ;)

Not so much for those of us who rely on the JS to commute. This crew just gave the FAA and the DHS more ammo against us....:mad:

Obviously the pilot's didn't check his ID and stuff and should know that an Air France pilot can't ride the jumpseat.

Awesome!

Pilot imposter
 

Man impersonating pilot reached plane's cockpit at Philly airport, police say | Fox News

At least one of the multiple *layers* of security caught this imposter. I'm assuming that the cockpit crew were the ones who asked for the proper credentials and discovered the ruse.

I'm wondering how this guy was authorized to ride on the JS before he even got down the jet bridge... Pretty sure you still can't ride in the JS on an international carrier. So how or why the gate agent let the guy down is a question I'd like answered.

Did you read the article? He had a coach seat, asked if there was any first class seats, was told no, went down to take his coach seat, and then made his way up to the cockpit. Hate to say it, but this looks like more of the pilots screwing up than the gate agent. What pilot lets an "alleged" foreign pilot get to the point of messing with the cockpit jumpseat? Let alone someone without a CASS verification to show to them. There are so many times where I walk down to talk to the captain, tell them I'm so and so requesting a ride, and they don't check crap. No ID check, not even the jumpseat form. Scary.

Apparently he paid for a seat, and when he didn't get upgraded, he went with Plan B.

Man impersonating pilot reached plane's cockpit at Philly airport, police say | Fox News

Does anything good every happen in Philly?

Wonder if this has anything to do with the CASS system having a hiccup yesterday....couldn't utilize the KCM yesterday morning due to the system not working with my airline... Captain contacted company and they had already had several calls from commuters unable to jumpseat to work on OALs.... Still, doesn't make up for the captain's faux paux..... TSA is gonna have a field day with this one....

There was only one layer he tried to go through. The flight crew. They did their job. He was a normal ticketed passenger. He never told anyone he was a "pilot" until he got on the airplane. So I think everyone did what was supposed to be done.

One story (of many differing storys) said it was the gate agent who finally 'caught' him, when she gave the final pax count to the F/O, but only after the pilots had let him stow his stuff in the cockpit and he was already sitting on the jumpseat?!

Get ready for a new TSA directive!

From what I heard on the news, he had a coach ticket and never asked for a Jumpseat pass from the agent, so the CASS system was never a player.

If he was sitting on the jumpseat they were absolutely not doing their job.

In their defense and I really hope this is the case, they mistook his ID for a real ID, which is somewhat understandable even though it was Air France, and the French guy said the gate agent was bring down the CASS authorization.

The door wasn't closed so it never got too far. But I think we can all expect some emails about this from our companies and unions. Oh and a lot of stupid questions about it from non-aviation family and friends.

Maybe it was a dry run to see how well the system works (or doesn't). I sure am glad the knife ban is still in effect....

This is what I'm thinking. Another report said he had an Air France ID doctored to have his name on it. That's kind of hard for the flight crews to know every ID, HOWEVER, they should have asked for the jumpseat form and the rest of the stuff beyond his ID if he was up front. That and the whole "Air France" should have had them wondering why he was going to be up front as well.

I'm just hoping the TSA does knee jerk us ALL out of the jumpseat because of this tool....

I think the CA/FO are going to get a talking to at the very least.

Here's are really crazy idea. Let's find out what really happened before we throw the crew or anyone else under the bus. The way I heard it was that the crew saw his fake stuff and called security. If it happened any other way we will hear about it.

I know you can't put anything that is not true on the internet, but...........

I'm with r57 on this one...the FO asks for paperwork, the dude doesn't have it and he gets arrested. Seems like it all worked the way it was supposed to.

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Bonjour.

Does USAirways allow expats ride in the back on a JS pass?

No foreign airline pilots allowed. Must be in CASS. They must purchase a ZED ticket and ride the back as a regular pax.

A flight attendant conducting a routine head count entered the cockpit and saw the man sitting in the jump seat behind the captain's seat. He identified himself as an Air France pilot.

Suspicious airline employees, sniffing out a fake, questioned the man.

The flight crew told him he would have to fill out paperwork, but the man didn't have credentials, police said. The captain then told him to leave the area, and ordered him off the plane before it left the gate. The man became irate. The crew called police.

Frenchman caught on plane in real life sequel to 'Catch Me If You Can' - CNN.com

That hardly compares to the scale of Catch Me If You Can but we won't let the truth get in the way of a stellar headline built on a foundation of hyperbole with a side of fear.

We do need to do a much better job of presenting and demanding creds. Its as if there is some level of professional courtessy involved in acting all casual about it or saying "if the gate sends you down you're good". That is incorrect and flat out dangerous. Not only WR security and safety, but for the future of the benefit as a whole. Its long past due we take it more seriously from both sides of the transaction. Anyone that is miffed at taking 2 seconds to display basic creds/lic/med has no business riding up front anyway, especially when they should have them out and ready automatically. Every time.

Hey, from now on, when I jumpseat to work, I'm going to wear a beret and say I fly a 747 for Air France, see what that gets me!

;^)

Wewe, mon sewer!

More like diamond member business class passenger that is:D

Everybody needs to take a breath. The door didn't close, the parking brake didn't come off, some guy threw on a jacket with epaulets and somehow snuck up into the flight deck-- maybe the flight crew was there, maybe not, at some point before things got serious they get around to asking him questions, and booya, he's off the airplane and in cuffs. Our system works, this is a good time to just remember to always check the CASS and the required paperwork-- which we do all the time anyway. Case in point, today.

Amazing. I'm listening to The Schnitt Show out of Tampa and there is a Southwest Captain who called in to the show and he is discussing CASS and jumpseat procedures.

Next he'll discuss SouthWest's disregard for kittens.

Our checklist tripled when we merged, here comes another item. Sick of this Shiite.

I was questioning about US pilots working abroad as expats.

Not true. Foreign airline pilots are allowed. Must be in CASS only to ride the actual flight deck jumpseat. If not in CASS, but on the reciprocal jumpseat list, may only occupy a seat in the cabin. And without having to purchase a ZED ticket. FOM text says:

9.2.2 Non-Flightdeck Jumpseat Occupants. Pilots and dispatchers from airlines that do not participate in CASS are only authorized to occupy a seat in the cabin. See paragraph 9.10.4 Reciprocal Jumpseat List.

Examples of foreign airlines, whose pilots would be allowed to occupy a seat in the cabin without being in CASS because of being on the reciprocal jumpseat list are Air Canada, Air Jamaica, Bahamas Air, Cayman Airways and WestJet.

Can you add more details to help narrow the exact situation you are asking about? If there is an expat who works for Cathay or Emirates for example, and is travelling domestically back here in the states then there is no possibility of using a JS pass to ride.

Those two carriers are not in CASS, so riding in the actual flight deck jumpseat on US Airways would not be allowed.

Additionally, those two carriers are also not on the US Airways reciprocal jumpseat list, so an expat employee (pilot) of either of those carriers being able to ride in the back using a JS pass is also not possible. This is similar to how any pilot from a foreign air carrier would be handled, when their airline is not on the reciprocal jumpseat list. Doesn't seem to matter about the birthplace/citizenship/expat status of the employee, it's more focused on the established agreements between the various employing air carriers to allow or disallow various JS travel options.

Use to jump seat from JFK to my home airport with Jet Blue all the time. At the time I was with Ryanair... non-CASS. My first time jumpseating, I submitted my ID and certificates, both US and Irish at the old JFK terminal in 2005. They were excellent to jump seaters. Best part... uniform not required. just ID. It was a seat in the back, which is OK, as the last place I want to sit after doing 100 per month and going home on my block off is in the cockpit.

My current carrier gets me back to the US on their carrier and then to my home airport. No standby... no ZED... just a guaranteed seat;). Just a thought if I wanted to travel around while home on my block off.

I always claim to be a Delta pilot when I call in to radio shows....

How do you know it wasn't a Delta pilot pretending to be a SWA CA? :D

Exactly right. Thank you.

I saw one version of this story of this story on TV last night and the reporter, in describing the events, at one point said the first officer was there, but then "the real pilot [captain] came to the cockpit..." Us FOs don't get any respect!:(:D

First he sounded like a real tool. Schnitt asked him what airline he worked for. He kept avoiding the question. He then said he was a Captain on a 737. So Schnitt asked him a lot of questions about that. He was very well versed of items in the cockpit and how the jumpseat works.

Schnitt kept asking him about what airline. He mentioned something about red and blue painted airplanes. So Schnitt said, "Oh you must work for Delta." And he said, "Oh no no no, my company is the largest domestic airline in the US." Schnitt kept asking him what airline ... he refused.

So then Schnitt mentioned Air France and their airplanes. This CA said that Air France only operates an all Airbus fleet. Schnitt corrected him. In fact, that seemed to destroy his street cred. Then he told Schnitt, "My company started in the Southwest." And Schnitt said, "Oh you work for Southwest airlines." And the Captain was quick to say that he is not speaking officially for Southwest Airlines.

My only problem with the caller was that, regardless of where he worked (and he was Southwest), is that he detailed procedures and things that, although not "secret" information, didn't need to be said publicly.

All Delta pilots know that Air France fly Boeings too ... that's where the international code share is going.

I knew I should have put a smiley. I actually agree with keeping procedures etc out of the media. Your nomination for totd stands.
I would argue that your first sentence describes 5% of every pilot group.

I am very honored. Thank you! :)

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We may actually hire this year. How much time you got?