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gringo 05-17-2013 04:06 PM

iPad logbook at the interview
 
So I haven't been keeping a paper logbook in quite some time, as I have been using an electronic logbook for nearly a decade now.

So the question I pose is this; when going in for an interview these days, has anyone been successful in showing up with only an iPad or other electronic device with your logbook on it? Or do interviewers still want to see a printed logbook?

In this day and age of transitioning to EFB's, I can't imagine a major airline making a big deal of this, but I have no first hand experience.

Thanks

MusicPilot 05-17-2013 04:24 PM

If you want the job, print it.

MatthewAMEL 05-17-2013 04:29 PM

2nd that.

Print it. What does it cost you for the shot at a major?

HSLD 05-17-2013 05:06 PM

Are you going to leave your iPad behind so that the hiring board can reference it after the interview? Many airlines will make copies of at least the last page of your logbook for reference, I'm not sure how easy that would be with an iPad.

TQ Nola 05-17-2013 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1411477)
So I haven't been keeping a paper logbook in quite some time, as I have been using an electronic logbook for nearly a decade now.

So the question I pose is this; when going in for an interview these days, has anyone been successful in showing up with only an iPad or other electronic device with your logbook on it? Or do interviewers still want to see a printed logbook?

In this day and age of transitioning to EFB's, I can't imagine a major airline making a big deal of this, but I have no first hand experience.

Thanks


Part of the exercise is to find out if you're the kind of guy who tells the truth or stretches it. Turning an Ipad on and saying "See?" doesn't allow for that.

Not knowing that that is a big part of the exercise simply wouldn't be believable to a hiring board. Don't do that.

If, instead, you're asking whether or not they'll accept a computer file instead of a printout, the answer is that you should be immediately prepared to provide either one. The main job of an applicant is to make it easy for someone to hire you.

Southerner 05-17-2013 06:12 PM

iPad logbook at the interview
 
It's good to stand out from the crowd...in a good way. If you stand out in a bad way, well...

Cavity 05-17-2013 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1411477)
So the question I pose is this; when going in for an interview these days, has anyone been successful in showing up with only an iPad or other electronic device with your logbook on it? Or do interviewers still want to see a printed logbook?

Do us all a favor, test out the waters with only the iPad and let everyone know how it goes.

Really? Is that a serious question?

Flamer 05-17-2013 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1411477)
So I haven't been keeping a paper logbook in quite some time, as I have been using an electronic logbook for nearly a decade now.

So the question I pose is this; when going in for an interview these days, has anyone been successful in showing up with only an iPad or other electronic device with your logbook on it? Or do interviewers still want to see a printed logbook?

In this day and age of transitioning to EFB's, I can't imagine a major airline making a big deal of this, but I have no first hand experience.

Thanks

I would just use the iPad app. Actually I would just email them the file, then face time in for the interview. I wouldn't even change my PJs.

bluesideup1224 05-17-2013 07:26 PM

Just save your logbook file to a PDF, put it on a flash drive, and take it to a FedEx Kinkos. They can print it and bind it for you in 10 min for $20.

gringo 05-18-2013 12:20 AM

Thanks for the responses; been planning to print it up anyways, just seeing if the current trend has changed since I last interviewed nearly a decade ago...

crxpilot 05-18-2013 02:09 AM

Actually i think it was a good question. That and a printout with totals should be the new norm.

jc23 05-18-2013 02:58 AM

Recommend recording all flight times on a cocktail napkin, but whatever you do, don't forget to smudge lipstick on the napkin to give it that extra flare. Seriously though, your thought process is on point, the airline hiring machine will catch up with technology some day, maybe. In the meantime, print your logbook, bring your iPad, and have screen shots of your last ten pages ready to email to some HR geek.

PurpleToolBox 05-18-2013 02:14 PM

FYI, It is now FedEx Office and they will can easily make you a very nice logbook presentation.

727gm 05-19-2013 08:22 AM

The guys interviewing/hiring you probably won't be twenty-somethings, they'll likely be old-school captains..... play to your audience. Have bound paper. The "new norm" won't arrive 'til the next generation of captains is hiring.

jetlink 05-19-2013 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1411477)
So I haven't been keeping a paper logbook in quite some time, as I have been using an electronic logbook for nearly a decade now.

So the question I pose is this; when going in for an interview these days, has anyone been successful in showing up with only an iPad or other electronic device with your logbook on it? Or do interviewers still want to see a printed logbook?

In this day and age of transitioning to EFB's, I can't imagine a major airline making a big deal of this, but I have no first hand experience.

Thanks

I think it's a great idea :D
At the same time tell them the truth of what you think about paper manuals and jepps. ;)

gringo 05-19-2013 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by jetlink (Post 1412206)
I think it's a great idea :D
At the same time tell them the truth of what you think about paper manuals and jepps. ;)

I love my paper manuals and Jepps. Other things I love? Plugging in my rotary phone into my 56k modem so I can log into those zippy new BBS's everyone's crazy about.

That is, when I'm not busy driving my swag Delorian while calling my wife on my brick sized mobile "cell-u-lar" telephone, anyways. Can you imagine? Being able to TALK to people on the PHONE while DRIVING???

Technology is radical, man.

Boomer 05-19-2013 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1412322)
That is, when I'm not busy driving my swag Delorian while calling my wife on my brick sized mobile "cell-u-lar" telephone...

If you're in a Delorean, then it's still a "car" phone. It won't be called a "cell" phone until the late 90's.

gringo 05-19-2013 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1412391)
It won't be called a "cell" phone until the late 90's.

Not to hijack my own thread, but not true.

The phrase "cell phone" coincides with the coining of the phrase "cellular network", which was coined in the late 70's; they were also commonly referred to as "car phones" because most of them were in fact installed in a car at the time.

Tech Talk: Where'd it Come From, Anyway? | PCWorld

Why Do We Use The Term Cellular Phone Instead of Mobile Phone?

How the 'Cellular' Phone Got Its Name - Atlantic Mobile

Although truthfully I had no idea either, I was just making a funny.

Bucking Bar 05-19-2013 06:13 PM

Many airline hiring boards are most comfortable with easily verified logs from a third party. My logs were backed up by Flightline / Pay Sheets. Then I did a database on top so if they wanted night / IFR / per type ... I could run any number they wanted to see. FWIW FedEx and Delta were happy with my "logbook" although it was a database.

Boomer 05-20-2013 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1412442)
Not to hijack my own thread, but not true.

The phrase "cell phone" coincides with the coining of the phrase "cellular network", which was coined in the late 70's; they were also commonly referred to as "car phones" because most of them were in fact installed in a car at the time.

Tech Talk: Where'd it Come From, Anyway? | PCWorld

Why Do We Use The Term Cellular Phone Instead of Mobile Phone?

How the 'Cellular' Phone Got Its Name - Atlantic Mobile

Although truthfully I had no idea either, I was just making a funny.

I'll rephrase my statement: most people call them "car phones" well into the 90's, until the terms "mobile phone" and "cell phone" become more widespread and "car phone" falls out of the common vernacular.

Bucking Bar 05-21-2013 06:51 AM

Hate it when things fall out of the common vernacular.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu.../shoephone.jpg

What amazed me is that our two year old knew exactly what to do with a rotary dial phone toy she received. Picked it up, dialed a number and said "hello, Minne Mouse?" That's a pretty strong statement about industrial design.

She also answers my cell phone and says "Hello Crew Scheduling ... I don't know where Daddy is." That's a statement about industrial relations.

Boomer 05-21-2013 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1413372)
Hate it when things fall out of the common vernacular.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu.../shoephone.jpg

What amazed me is that our two year old knew exactly what to do with a rotary dial phone toy she received. Picked it up, dialed a number and said "hello, Minne Mouse?" That's a pretty strong statement about industrial design.

She also answers my cell phone and says "Hello Crew Scheduling ... I don't know where Daddy is." That's a statement about industrial relations.

Bar's right. It was a shoe phone for two decades before it became a car phone.


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