International Jumpseat UAL/DAL
 

Hello,

Wondering if anyone might be able to chime in and help me with what I would need to do in NRT and BKK to try for a cabin jumpseat on either carrier. I'm not too terribly familiar with speaking with foreign CSAs about this so want to get an idea of what I would need to do.

Thanks.

No. You can only jumpseat on your own airline internationally.

You can Jumpseat but cabin only. The 1W is only authorized for crew of that airline. The ability to access other airlines MCL does not yet exist. Jumpseating is how you access the aircraft, not where you actually sit. I would have a backup as CSA's overseas are not up to speed on jumpseating. Just my $.02

I would talk to a manager if the gate agents don't understand. I had to do the same on United from India. Managers r usually smarter and know these things. Not everybody is familiar with jumpseating at these intl stations.

I do Shanghai back to the states on United about once a month. List at the counter plenty early, and mention OMC. It might take a supervisor to figure it out, and they will probably try to tell you it is not allowed because they don't want to mess with it. Politely stand your ground, and they will come around. They just don't see it often enough to be proficient at it.

Hence why I said "cabin jumpseat".

Well, yes I agree with you functionally, however if CASS is used in conjunction with other screening methods it is allowed provided the TSA allows you to make a change to your TFSSP. Reason I agree functionally is because I know 9/10 carriers out there don't want to do a 2 or 3 step process for screening and are waiting for ICASS to become the standard. CASS is nothing more than a computerized employment verification platform.

I normally do this on cargo flights, this is my first try for PAX flights since schedules have changed in the freighter world. With cargo flights it was always easier since their flight following departments back in the states would control the screening / authorization.

Thanks for the input, I'll probably end up with an ID90 for backup.
Would it also be helpful to have myself listed on both carriers for the flights a few days ahead?

Is there any particular language or things I can convey to the CSA about where to look in their computer? I assume they have access to the same applications / tools as a CSA in the US, or is that not the case?

Thanks again.

Sorry, was reading too fast and didn't catch cabin jumpseat.

I jumpseated out of SIN and HKG on UAL a few years ago and as soon as I mentioned OMC the agents were all aware and knew what to do. You have to go to the ticket counter (usually the additional/special services desk) to get listed and pay the departure taxes. The taxes can vary widely on location. Out of SIN and HKG they were not too bad, in the area of $20-$30 USD. But keep in mind that was a few years back. One of the things I noticed is both SIN and HKG keep you at the ticket counter until the gate agents report space available. So you have to make the mad rush through security and out to the gate. They will literally close the door right behind you as you step on to the aircraft. It makes talking to the captain a bit difficult as they are wanting to push as soon as you get on the aircraft.

When I have come out of Europe on UAL I have never had the issue of being held at the ticket counter until the last minute, they always give me a standby boarding pass.

Going to be giving this a try Saturday to see how things go and will report back if anyone else is wondering about the same.

Also, can someone enlighten me as to why cockpit jump-seating is acceptable on airlines like Atlas, Kalitta, and many other ACMIs, but absolutely unacceptable on FedEx, UPS, United, Delta, etc.?

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With United, "OMC" is the magic phrase. Otherwise they look at you as if you are a pig driving a convertible.