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Old 10-05-2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL View Post
It's not just UPS and FedEx.

It's any US Flag carrier. They all have contracts to handle US Mail.

The most succinct info comes from the FedEx website.

Candidates for jobs involving handling or access to U.S. mail cannot be considered for employment if they have resided outside the U.S., Guam or Puerto Rico for more than (6) six months during the last (5) years prior to today's date, other than the following verifiable exceptions: active duty in the U.S. Uniformed Service; trailing spouse or dependent of someone working for the U.S. government (military or civilian); missionary; student attending school in a foreign country; Peace Corps participant; employee of a U.S. based employer/company or other extraordinary circumstances.

i.e., if you left to fly for Emirates for the last 3 years, you are not eligible for a job at ANY US Flag carrier until you have been in the US for 5 continuous years.

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Sorry you're incorrect Matthew.. Several guys have left Emirates recently for "Flag Carriers" on that list, I know a few of them personally. Last I heard FedEx was the only one that had the requirement. UPS may have it now as well, but a few years ago they hired several Cathay guys that were HKG based (as well as US based.)
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'A few years ago' being the requisite statement.

'Access to the freight' is laughable.

It's a FAR now.
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL View Post
'A few years ago' being the requisite statement.

'Access to the freight' is laughable.

It's a FAR now.
You are wrong...! Just understand that you are just plain wrong and don't insist in an argument that is being proven wrong at a daily basis. Two cases from this week, not years ago...., one of our captains just placed his resignation yesterday, hired at UAL after being working in Japan for the past 7 years. Another good friend of mine (who I've known for 25 years) has been abroad for 15 of those, also got hires at UAL this week.
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:17 PM
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You are wrong...! Just understand that you are just plain wrong and don't insist in an argument that is being proven wrong at a daily basis. Two cases from this week, not years ago...., one of our captains just placed his resignation yesterday, hired at UAL after being working in Japan for the past 7 years. Another good friend of mine (who I've known for 25 years) has been abroad for 15 of those, also got hires at UAL this week.
Agreed. I flew in Europe for a year before I got hired. I've never heard of this restriction before. If it's new, it's news to me. Seems like a stupid and arbitrary rule.
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I dīdnt think US pax carriers have hauled mail since shortly after 9/11.

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Old 10-06-2013, 05:54 PM
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I dīdnt think US pax carriers have hauled mail since shortly after 9/11.

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Funny, I had a pile of pallets of it the other day. Guess we didn't get the memo.
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Originally Posted by mike734 View Post
Agreed. I flew in Europe for a year before I got hired. I've never heard of this restriction before. If it's new, it's news to me. Seems like a stupid and arbitrary rule.
I agree, it seems stupid and arbitrary, especially since FedEx has foreign bases.
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I dīdnt think US pax carriers have hauled mail since shortly after 9/11.

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In 2006 one major airline still did. I helped load it daily.
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:45 PM
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Ok. I'm happy to be wrong. Got a few PMs from folks here that explained the rule.

Thanks for the info, guys.

Fly safe.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
I dīdnt think US pax carriers have hauled mail since shortly after 9/11.

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Shh, don't tell these people. Admittedly, this is from last year, but still...


Updated: 5:24 p.m. Wednesday, July 25, 2012 | Posted: 1:36 p.m. Wednesday, July 25, 2012

Carrying more U.S. mail, Delta adds mail sorting system

By Kelly Yamanouchi
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines is seeking to expand its cargo business by carrying more mail for the U.S. Postal Service, which has grown to become one of the airline's biggest customers.
To boost its ability to handle more mail than manual sorting allows, Delta added a new automated mail sorting system for domestic mail in Atlanta, which began operations this week.
Delta exited the domestic mail business close to six years ago, when some airlines — including Delta — thought mail was not generating enough profit to justify the effort.
But Delta's chief cargo officer Neel Shah sought to regain the business after joining the airline in 2008, and the airline now has a multiyear contract to carry mail. It's a $100 million-a-year business for Delta, which carries about 2.5 million to 3 million pounds of domestic mail a week.
Shah said he has always liked mail. "I can't think of a more perfect product to put in the bellies of narrow-body aircraft," he said.
Handling mail requires the right scanning technology and performance to succeed, but mail trays fit well in cargo holds and the business is relatively stable, Shah said.
He said Delta is one of a few primary airline carriers of domestic mail, mainly first-class letters. Small packages, prohibited from being carried on passenger aircraft unless properly screened, are carried by FedEx and UPS for the Postal Service.
"This is a very, very important part of our business," Shah said.
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