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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1525306)

Fix our product to match theirs and we have nothing to worry about.

Sure. easily done. Get rid of the labor laws that protect anybody with any miles on their bones.. anybody with an alternate lifestyle (If you don't think that's a factor, I DARE you to go to Dubai and stand up and loudly start singing 'We Are Family' while wearing a rainbow thong. Having your biggest investor build you an airport... not just a terminal... an airport. And to top it off, get sweet deals on the only asset in the entire region which just happens to be the only thing of any value in the whole region... Of course that doesn't take into account the fact that their biggest investor also protects them while ours couldn't care less about our industry... Other than that, piece of cake. We should run right out and buy 50 or 60 777s and we can whip dey ***....

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Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1525076)

If they default, will the US Govt bail them out?

No, theirs will though.

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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1525306)

Fix our product to match theirs and we have nothing to worry about.

It's not just about product. It's about the fact the an airline that doesn't play by the same rules wants carte blanche on an entire industry.

EK is the biggest threat to our jobs in the US and Europe than anything ever before. This airline could literally destroy this nations aviation industry if they get enough backstabbers to support cabbotage.

It's easy to make money when you have a country run by Feudal lords who put anyone in prison that doesn't fulfill their contract. Imagine how bad the UAE economy would be if they had to actually respect human rights and not get away with a 21st century form of slavery. Even china doesn't play the games that the UAE gets away with.

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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 1525296)

So how about Delta, United, American, and USAirways purchasing of Airbus aircraft? Did they get any sweet financing deals from the Europeans? Are Airbus manufactured aircraft obtainable at a lower cost due to European government subsidies in the development of Airbus products?

Not any deals that aren't available to you... M R Rats gets American airplanes financed at great rates funded by American taxpayers. We get the same deals (allegedly) that you are able to get from Airbus, and probably not as good because your sheik buddies walk in with blank checks...

This is a straw man argument on your part.

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Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1525316)

This^^^ right^^^^ here^^^

Anybody that believes any of those guys in the middle east are our friends are either high of naïve beyond any rational thought.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1524545)

We all know about the legalized prostitution of our White House and Congress. Since they'll always be addicted to the "clients" who pay them the most, the focus on politicians is a waste of time. If we are to stop foreign airlines from operating the US air transportation system, we have to stop trying to buy more politicians than they do. We can't cutoff the Middle East's financing of our politicians, but we can cutoff Boeing's financing of our politicians.

This is one issue where airline management and airline labor interests align. The Middle East airlines are buying Boeing aircraft under the overt proviso that they will be granted access to US markets as a result. If they get that access, it will likely eliminate a number of US airlines. The same US airlines that made Boeing the success they are today. Now Boeing is working to cut our collective throats to increase sales. US airline management and labor needs to join forces and state that all US airlines will boycott the purchase of Boeing aircraft unless Boeing agrees to stop their lavish spending on and arm twisting of politicians to allow foreign access to our markets.

Boeing doesn't care who actually runs our air transportation system because they've calculated they will still be the largest provider of aircraft to whoever ultimately survives. Management and labor need to show Boeing they've calculated wrong...and give them a huge public relations black eye in the process. Thoughts?

Carl

On a visceral level, I agree with you. but as a practical matter, it will never happen. Our government couldn't care less.

Ha, "free market" republican pilots worried about cabatage... That's funny.

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1525349)

Ha, "free market" republican pilots worried about cabatage... That's funny.

I never liked cabbage.

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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1525306)

Fix our product to match theirs and we have nothing to worry about.

So I'm assuming that Delta, United, BA, LH and AF are all paying and treating their employees in Dubai much better than EK? Well they aren't because if I recall last time I was there Dnata, which is owned by EK, does all their ground handling. EK engineers most likely provide all their technical support as well.

So to play by your rules I guess EK should pay a living wage for where? New York, Cleveland? Sure in a perfect world and in a perfect world the iPad your grimy fingers is clutching shouldn't be made with the blood of Asians.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1525359)

I never liked cabbage.

Or Carnies. Smell like cabbage........small hands. :D