gooddeal

I suppose this should quiet any DL/AS merger or acquisitions for awhile...



The 'frenemy' strikes back: Alaska Air takes on Delta

Alaska Airlines' schedule for its new Salt Lake City routes will be as follows:
+ Los Angeles: 1 daily round-trip flight on Boeing 737 aircraft, beginning June 11
+ Portland: 2 daily round-trip flights -- one on a Boeing 737 and one on a Bombardier CRJ-700 regional jet --beginning June 9.
+ San Diego: 2 daily round-trip flights -- one on a Boeing 737 and one on a Bombardier CRJ-700 regional jet --beginning June 10.
+ San Jose: 1 daily round-trip flight on Boeing 737 aircraft, beginning June 12.


Delta adds Seattle routes; 'Frenemies' with Alaska Air?


Delta will add more than 25 new nonstop flights out of Seattle this spring and summer and five new West Coast destinations — San Francisco, San Diego, Vancouver, B.C., Fairbanks and Portland — as well as expand service to Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Anchorage. It’s also starting new nonstops to Hong Kong, Seoul and London (while dropping service to Osaka)

buzzpat

Yup. Thankfully. RA finally got ****ed. I'm LA based. I love it.

contrails

I think the SEA expansion that has happened thus far is just the tip of the iceberg.

Good stuff, for sure.

Elmer Fudd

RA has forgotten more about running an airline than the Alaska CEO has ever learned.

DAL went from a minor presence in LGA to the dominant carrier. This will be repeated in SEA.

This has happened in the past. SWA ran USAir out of BWI, where they had several hundred flights a day. Now, only a handful.

It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. It's even worse to pi$$ off RA.

pilotpayne

Just a question as I know nothing about this.
What did ALk do to make RA so "mad" at them?

scambo1

They exist.

Flyby1206

Good question. I'm thinking Alaska has something brewing with AA in terms of expanded codeshare and DL is ****ed.

Timbo

South West also ran Delta out of Orland. Remember Song? And before that, Delta Express?

When I asked one of our Marketing VP's why he ran away from the Orlando market, he said, "Those are not high yield business passengers, those are families going to Disney World, buying the cheapest tickets, there's no money in that..."

To which I replied, "South West seems to make it work, and with zero first class seats, they have never lost money hauling families to Disney World."

40% of the traffic in the USA is from the NYC/BWI/BOS area to Florida, but Delta ran away from it and gave it to SWA, Air Tran and Jet Blue. I hope we take some of those AT17's and fly them out of Orlando, but I'm guessing part of the deal GK made with RA when he sold them was, "You stay out of my backyard, and I'll stay out of yours."

Timbo

The story I heard was, at a recent big Investor's Conference in NYC, the Alaska Mgt. team dissed the Delta team, in a big way, and RA came away from that meeting saying "We'll show those clowns who's boss...".

A couple days later all the SEA expansion was announced.

RA said, Suck it Alaska!

Now, if we could just get the Gary Kelly to tell him to pound sand in Orlando!

pilotpayne

Got it.

Thanks