New Delta MEC Chairman elected
12-16-2013, 07:43 AM
#171
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
And by the way, I did vote in the last LEC election. I did not plan to vote because I felt (still feel) that it is a waste of time. But there was one guy running who I felt worthy of my vote. He appealed directly to me to vote for him and I decided I would vote for him out of respect. Of course, he didn't win. Wouldn't have fit in with the Moak disciples at all.
Oh... and I did not call you a "liar." From your post, I didn't pick up on the fact that you were doing rolling thunder (after re-reading it, I can see where you hinted at that... so my bad). And I specifically asked, "what am I missing?" Sorry if you thought otherwise.
Oh... and I did not call you a "liar." From your post, I didn't pick up on the fact that you were doing rolling thunder (after re-reading it, I can see where you hinted at that... so my bad). And I specifically asked, "what am I missing?" Sorry if you thought otherwise.
More to come……..
Cheers brother…no hard feelings…s'all good.
12-16-2013, 08:09 AM
#172
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Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Widget,
Yes, but why is an E175 mainline and a CRJ not?
The fact they draw a line means they do not understand unity.
A union cannot hold the moral high ground when it is willing to segregate it's pilots based on an arbitrary distinction.
Yes, but why is an E175 mainline and a CRJ not?
The fact they draw a line means they do not understand unity.
A union cannot hold the moral high ground when it is willing to segregate it's pilots based on an arbitrary distinction.
I'd still give them a lot of credit if they can somehow move the line of unity south of the EMB175 to include it at the mainline, especially if its actually operated there. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will unity.
We may or may not ever get the 50 seaters and small turbo props back. But regardless of if we ever do or not, the 76 seat segment should be the first priority. We will have the luxury of worrying about smaller equipment when and only when we get that locked down first.
12-16-2013, 08:41 AM
#173
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Posts: 3,838
Originally Posted by brakechatter
No, it's believable.
Did you vote in the last LEC election last October? Did you call anyone else to vote? Let's stop the blather and cut to the chase.
If you did vote--as you told me your weren't--you have given up and are part of the problem.
If you voted, how many other people did you get to vote similarly to your vote? How about even just the f/os you flew with during that month or two?
It's really simple. There are people on the MEC who feel the way you do. They do not have the votes to get done what you are proposing. A different philosophy rules the MEC, and subsequently the MEC administration, and subsequently a very large percentage of the Executive Council and Executive Board at ALPA National. Bylaws and policy manuals can be changed to reflect the will of the membership--if it is indeed the true will...
Did you vote in the last LEC election last October? Did you call anyone else to vote? Let's stop the blather and cut to the chase.
If you did vote--as you told me your weren't--you have given up and are part of the problem.
If you voted, how many other people did you get to vote similarly to your vote? How about even just the f/os you flew with during that month or two?
It's really simple. There are people on the MEC who feel the way you do. They do not have the votes to get done what you are proposing. A different philosophy rules the MEC, and subsequently the MEC administration, and subsequently a very large percentage of the Executive Council and Executive Board at ALPA National. Bylaws and policy manuals can be changed to reflect the will of the membership--if it is indeed the true will...
I want everyone to go back and read this post.
Then go back and read it again.
A handful of votes. It's that close. LEC elections are the lever by which the MEC moves.
Nu
12-16-2013, 08:59 AM
#174
Straight QOL, homie
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Originally Posted by tsquare
@TheManager. I think you are being overly dramatic on some of this. JMHO. Re-reading your posts, one would think we are chained to the yokes. WE have made significant gains. It is getting better. We open section 6 in a few months. Life is good.
You are an investor, so let's look at it from that angle.
The scenario: Your broker calls and tells you "I know you did extensive research and told me to buy XYZ. The good news is, XYZ us up 50% in the last few months. The bad news is, I decided to ignore your order, and instead bought ABC. It's only up 3%. Oh, and I'll still be charging my full commission."
So, would you tell him, "That's ok. We have made significant gains. Life is good."
Heck no, you wouldn't. You'd be pretty angry, and you'd immediately fire him. So why are you giving ALPA a pass?
12-16-2013, 11:03 AM
#175
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
"A few months?" YGBSM.
You are an investor, so let's look at it from that angle.
The scenario: Your broker calls and tells you "I know you did extensive research and told me to buy XYZ. The good news is, XYZ us up 50% in the last few months. The bad news is, I decided to ignore your order, and instead bought ABC. It's only up 3%. Oh, and I'll still be charging my full commission."
So, would you tell him, "That's ok. We have made significant gains. Life is good."
Heck no, you wouldn't. You'd be pretty angry, and you'd immediately fire him. So why are you giving ALPA a pass?
You are an investor, so let's look at it from that angle.
The scenario: Your broker calls and tells you "I know you did extensive research and told me to buy XYZ. The good news is, XYZ us up 50% in the last few months. The bad news is, I decided to ignore your order, and instead bought ABC. It's only up 3%. Oh, and I'll still be charging my full commission."
So, would you tell him, "That's ok. We have made significant gains. Life is good."
Heck no, you wouldn't. You'd be pretty angry, and you'd immediately fire him. So why are you giving ALPA a pass?
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