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pilotrob23 01-25-2014 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1566764)
So why again is it important for the United States of AMERICA to fund and pay for a facility in a foreign country that benefits relatively few American citizens?

Because of money, and money makes the world go round.

pilotrob23 01-25-2014 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1566766)
Glad you like it there. And thanks for resurrecting this thread. You reminded me to finish my letter to rubio.

Your welcome. Sorry I was late, after a ten hour flight, much needed rest, and a round of golf, I apologize for being late. I know you have a voice on these threads, with over 9500 posts, and you need the final say, so I am glad I could remind you on your letter. Let us know how it goes t.

FlyingNasaForm 01-25-2014 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1564871)
How many? If we're going to spend tax payer's money, shouldn't it be on something that benefits a majority? I'm sure more US citizens fly to the US from say London, Paris, or Frankfurt then Abu Dhabi.

Valid point. Is there room at these airports for a checkpoint? Are the countries willing to go along with it?

pilotrob23 01-25-2014 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingNasaForm (Post 1567013)
Valid point. Is there room at these airports for a checkpoint? Are the countries willing to go along with it?

Actually Asians and Indians are in the top three growing minorities in America. Like I said, the U.A.E carriers fly a lot to these destinations.

Kapitanleutnant 01-26-2014 02:23 AM

Done deal!

First flight from Abu Dhabi Pre-clearance facility marks sad day for U.S. airline industry - MarketWatch

I'm betting that Dubai is jumping for joy because they'll be next to get this as the US seemingly just rolls over and allows it. I work in the ME for one of these airlines and I wish the US had more guts to at least give a bit of a fight… but nope…. not a peep! And it was amazing to me how quietly this was all done…. Very much UNDER THE RADAR!!!

Remember back a few years ago Dubai Ports World wanted to run one of the US ports….? There was a big backlash there. They really dropped the ball on this one.

Kap

Justdoinmyjob 01-26-2014 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by pilotrob23 (Post 1567016)
Actually Asians and Indians are in the top three growing minorities in America. Like I said, the U.A.E carriers fly a lot to these destinations.

Taken from the article posted by KL.

The traffic rate at the Abu Dhabi airport for U.S.-bound passengers is less than 200 per day on average, making this a poor investment of U.S. taxpayers' increasingly limited resources.

Apparently not that many Asians and Indians are transiting through Abu Dhabi.

pilotrob23 01-26-2014 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1567050)
Taken from the article posted by KL.

The traffic rate at the Abu Dhabi airport for U.S.-bound passengers is less than 200 per day on average, making this a poor investment of U.S. taxpayers' increasingly limited resources.

Apparently not that many Asians and Indians are transiting through Abu Dhabi.

Put out by SWAPA? Sure this will have a tremendous impact on Southwest.

Why preclearance in Abu Dhabi is good for the U.S. | TheHill

DAWGS 01-26-2014 05:22 AM

Real Reason
 
What is the real reason for our Gvt allowing this facility? Is it all the Boeing orders from these carriers and strong lobby from Boeing and ME carriers combined? Promises made to our Gvt or promises being kept? There has to be much more to the story for so many in DC to go along with this facility. The general public has no clue about the issue at all. It slid right under the radar even with ALPA pushing hard on the issue. Seems the stuff of a good 60 minutes investigation to raise awareness. Our industry is for sale to meet the US Gvt necessity of the day.

captjns 01-26-2014 05:29 AM

Has management of DAL, AA, UAL, US formed a coalition voicing their opinions regarding Pre-Clearance? I would think the Board of Directors would address these issues to elected officers of the company.

Have pilots, through their unions, voiced objections to corporate management? I would think Airline Lobbyists have greater influence or pull in DC than APLA.

Livelihood seems to be the primary issue. How does ALPA play a roll in the corporate affairs of any entity?

Justdoinmyjob 01-26-2014 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by pilotrob23 (Post 1567054)
Put out by SWAPA?


Do you have any figures to refute their assertion of the user numbers?


Originally Posted by pilotrob23 (Post 1567054)

Put out by a shill.
Sebright is president of the U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council and the head of the Middle East Practice Group at The Cohen Group

These are questions I think should be answered:
"How many people is this really going to serve?"
"What is the true amount of people transiting Abu Dhabi to the US?"
"What is the ROI for the taxpayer?"


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