crocodile

Anyone know how long the DOT typically evaluates these applications? Thoughts on when we can expect to hear a decision?

p3flteng

there are over 20,000 signatures so far....hardly just a bunch of pilots and their wives.

iceman49

I think Check's point was that the petition has been up for quite awhile, and there should be a lot more signatures. Not surprising since participation in local LEC elections is pathetic.

FL370

Pathetic .. or there are a lot of ALPA pilots who don't give a @?!&!? about mainline because they feel they are left behind.

NYGiantsFan

Unfortunately, this cant be stopped. We have moved into globalism the past 25-35 years. Most industries are in a global market now... Jobs outsourced thanks to NAFTA, GAT... The airlines are one of the last few industries not globalized and it will be next. Globalism for the US is bad as we can see everything has been outsourced and our country being de-industrialized, jobs cheaper overseas. Anybody who thinks this can be stopped and that congress and our government work for the people are naive. Our Gov and Congress works for the money powers and there are much more powerful people that want this done. Sad to say it, but this will be the 1st step towards open skies, i saw this coming years ago. All your future plans should be a plan B! I have had my plan B for a few years, pretty soon I wont need this job. It will be more like a hobby for me and my main income will come from my other business. Get your Plan B ready! Sorry to be a pessimistic, but this is the reality of our future in the global markets.

captjns

So far I've read posts of hopes of ALPA hoping to save the day and save the jobs. Has any of the MECs approached management within their companies? If so... response if any? the edging of M/E carriers along with the recent application by NAI is far greater than ALPA's capability.

TenYearsGone

I am confused , I just saw a NAI 787 at the gate in LAX.

TEN

Readback

ALPA Couldn't/wouldn't/didn't save their own members pensions. How successful do you think they are going to be in this endeavor.

Hint: does AUH have a pre-clearance facility?

BigGuns

Duplicate posting

BigGuns

This is copied right off the Delta Employee Homepage page for ALL employees to see and act!

Help Protect Delta's trans-Atlantic Service
February 12, 2014

Employees are asked to sign a petition to voice their opposition to Norwegian Air International (NAI)’s plan to launch service to the United States while evading the regulation and labor rules other carriers follow. ALPA has set up a site where airline employees and customers can sign a petition asking the DOT to block NAI’s unfair plan. It’s critical that the voices of Delta’s employees be heard on this important issue.*

Please send a message to the DOT to deny NAI’s application to fly into the United States by going to *#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US

Here’s some more background on the issue:

Norwegian Air International is being formed to unfairly exploit the Open Skies agreement between the U.S. and the E.U.*Though calling itself “Norwegian” and being controlled by Norwegian nationals, the carrier is being set up in Ireland to avoid the labor rules and regulations of its home country.*This is not what was envisioned by the Open Skies deal with the E.U., which clearly states that it is “not intended to undermine labor standards or the labor-related rights” of any country.

Although planning to operate from Norway and the U.K., NAI is trying to establish itself as an Irish airline -- which would allow it to use contract crews from an employment service in Singapore -- avoiding Norway’s labor laws and work permit requirements. NAI’s scheme would allow it drive down labor rates and work rules, giving it an unfair advantage in the transatlantic marketplace on routes that compete with Delta and other U.S. carriers, such as New York-London.***

This abuse of the Open Skies agreement would be bad for Delta’s employees, customers and investors. With the best employees in the business, we can compete with any airline in the world, but not if the playing field is tilted in their favor. That’s why we need your help to send a message to the DOT to deny NAI’s application to fly into the United States.