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vagabond 03-04-2014 12:02 PM

Allegiant Won't Refund After Death
 
Airline refuses refund after unexpected death | KING5.com Seattle

Some of the comments are not flattering at all.

Shameful. Heartless. Corporate greed. Cheap. Avoid at all cost.

galaxy flyer 03-04-2014 12:38 PM

Maybe they can use the ticket to ship the body home. :confused:

GF

IBPilot 03-04-2014 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 1595051)
Airline refuses refund after unexpected death | KING5.com Seattle

Some of the comments are not flattering at all.

Shameful. Heartless. Corporate greed. Cheap. Avoid at all cost.

Just curious Vagabond. Say you make portraits. A husband comes to you and pays you $1000 do make a portrait of you and his wife. materials cost you $900. After you paint it, what would you do if he calls you and says "I don't need it anymore she died and it will be too painful to look at." Put yourself out of the $900? How soon before the flight did he ask for the refund? Could they have resold the seats? It sucks but that is business. They shouldn't be put out for someone else's unfortunate luck. Although in this case with this large a company the bad publicity will be worse than giving the refund.

Ultralight 03-04-2014 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 1595051)
Airline refuses refund after unexpected death | KING5.com Seattle

Some of the comments are not flattering at all.

Shameful. Heartless. Corporate greed. Cheap. Avoid at all cost.

Penny wise, dollar foolish. This kind of bad publicity will likely cost more than this poor guys airline ticket.

Also, from a business point of view its a missed opportunity for some free good publicity.
"Allegiant Air makes exception to no refund policy for grieving husband," would have sounded much better.

CRM114 03-04-2014 12:46 PM

If a pax wants flexibility on tickets under extraordinary circumstances why would they go with Allegiant? Most passengers shop by price, period. Sometimes you get the bull, sometimes you get the horn.

ManFlex 03-04-2014 12:49 PM

Spirit would do the same thing. G4 and NK are discounters and sell products that are clearly marked as non refundable. Would the car dealer refund the man's money if he just bought his wife a new car and the next day she died?

vagabond 03-04-2014 12:54 PM

I am just posting what I found on KING5 our local TV station and don't feel one way or the other about the guy or Allegiant. A lot of people who don't get any satisfaction go get Jesse. He is usually successful but I note this time he apparently could not get Allegiant to refund the ticket price.

If I were him I'd move on with my life. If I were Allegiant I'd try to offer to give him back his late wife's portion.

Caveat emptor is what I always tell my clients. Sometimes heck happens in life.

fosters 03-04-2014 12:55 PM

Who spends $1,000 on Allegiant? I thought their fares were $69.

IBPilot 03-04-2014 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 1595098)
I am just posting what I found on KING5 our local TV station and don't feel one way or the other about the guy or Allegiant.

"Shameful. Heartless. Corporate greed. Cheap. Avoid at all cost." Were those your words, or were you repeating the comments from others in the comments section? That's where I was confused and why I asked you the question.

vagabond 03-04-2014 01:16 PM

Those were definitely not my words. I got them from reading the comments below the article.

CLMP 03-04-2014 01:18 PM

This is about the third time this has happened in about a year and a half. In the first instance, the FA's and their union pitched in and raised enough to hand a refund over to the passenger whose wife had died the night before their scheduled trip. I'm normally the last one to side with our management, but I'm torn on this subject. On one hand, we do not overbook flights so if this happens last minute, the company is out that revenue. On the other hand, demonstrating a shred of humanity goes a long way towards public relations. They attempt this by highly publicizing their involvement with Make-a-Wish, but I fear it's more for a tax deduction than anything else.

ManFlex 03-04-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by CLMP (Post 1595114)
This is about the third time this has happened in about a year and a half. In the first instance, the FA's and their union pitched in and raised enough to hand a refund over to the passenger whose wife had died the night before their scheduled trip. I'm normally the last one to side with our management, but I'm torn on this subject. On one hand, we do not overbook flights so if this happens last minute, the company is out that revenue. On the other hand, demonstrating a shred of humanity goes a long way towards public relations. They attempt this by highly publicizing their involvement with Make-a-Wish, but I fear it's more for a tax deduction than anything else.

This isn't about compassion or sympathy. This is about money. Why are airlines expected to behave differently than other types of businesses? A customer purchases a non refundable product and does not insure it. Customer is now unable to use product and expects a refund. This isn't 1950 where the customer is always right even when they're clearly wrong. Most of us feel great compassion for this man, but I don't think he deserves a refund.

Firsttimeflyer 03-04-2014 01:56 PM

Would have been much better publicity if they offered the refund and the media showed allegiant in a positive light instead of a negative one.

The only good news is that consumers don't really care, they want the cheapest price and will look past an event like this as they don't think it will happen to them and 99.99% of them are correct.

ManFlex 03-04-2014 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 1595133)
Would have been much better publicity if they offered the refund and the media showed allegiant in a positive light instead of a negative one.

The only good news is that consumers don't really care, they want the cheapest price and will look past an event like this as they don't think it will happen to them and 99.99% of them are correct.

I doubt good publicity is important to G4. That's Delta type territory. G4 getting some publicity for free is probably more valuable. How many people now know that G4 flies from BLI to SFB? Many more. And unless they are worried about dying before the trip, I bet they'll book a ticket if the price is right.

CLMP 03-04-2014 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by ManFlex (Post 1595136)
I doubt good publicity is important to G4. That's Delta type territory. G4 getting some publicity for free is probably more valuable. How many people now know that G4 flies from BLI to SFB? Many more. And unless they are worried about dying before the trip, I bet they'll book a ticket if the price is right.

It's Disneyland, not Disney World. They were going from BLI to LAX. We don't serve BLI to SFB. But I do agree that they don't care about bad press. As long as the money rolls in, public opinion matters not.

sandlapper223 03-05-2014 06:17 AM

Sadly, many in the general public (and professionals on this board) do not read or follow or understand the terms and conditions for an airline or company they do business with.

While someone's death is tragic, it should not be left to burden to the airline to compensate the traveller due to the travelers oversight (even in the event of death).

Allegiant offers "de-constructed" fares, like Spirit and others, to offer the customer a low base fare and the option to choose what services they want to use. Most other airlines include such services in their fares, whether the customer wants them or uses them or not. Like refreshments and snacks, bags, printed boarding passes, and reservation changes and cancellations. These features APPEAR free - but are actually included in the fare.

Allegiant, like other ULCC's has the policy:

"All purchases of travel, hotel, auto rental, activities or services, baggage and seat fees, and related booking fees, carrier charges and taxes are non-refundable. If you do not show up for your flight or fail to cancel within the specified cancellation window prior to scheduled departure, your entire fare plus fees for that segment will be forfeited.

Purchasing TripFlexTM at the time of booking gives you the flexibility to change and cancel your reservation without fees."

TripFlex costs between $8-$20 (according to their website) for this service.

If the passenger felt this service was important to him/her, they would have purchased it, don't you think? Why should the airline absorb this loss of fare when it is so clearly presented in the terms?

And remember - there is no such thing as bad press.

Boomer 03-05-2014 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 1595051)
Some of the comments are not flattering at all.

Shameful. Heartless. Corporate greed. Cheap. Avoid at all cost.


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 1595098)
I am just posting what I found on KING5 our local TV station and don't feel one way or the other about the guy or Allegiant...

Your first post looks like you are expressing your own feelings. Quotes would help.


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