Jetblue anti-union tactics
#111
Oh, I think JetBlue will be ALPA, nothing I say here matters. It will be funny though, when all of ALPA's campaign promises suddenly turn into managed expectations....."Yeah, well we tried to recapture international scope, but that would get us parked by the NMB, so instead we gave management a carve out.".....
#112
None of us here are naďve enough to think that ALPA is going to be the end all, be all and fix all our problems. I'm managing my own expectations. However, the one thing that is absolutely true without a doubt is that the direct relationship DOES...NOT...WORK. It's time to take a different path and build our own representation from the ground up that actually has legal standing.
Agreed.
Who on earth would believe that surrendering 100% control over your career to someone else would be a sound move???
NOTHING could be worse than the Direct Relationship.
NOTHING!
JJ
#113
Could have a union problem at AA/UsAir too. Always union drama.
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Who's side are you on dude?
I'm convinced you're a Management plant.
JJ
#114
Hardly. I'm just pointing out the drama involved in a current M&A event. JJ, you're drumming the warrior beat and that's exactly what I fear in a union. Us against them. That's how all the Legacy's flushed themselves down the bankruptcy toilet.
#115
Straight QOL, homie
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*clown alert*
p.s. the legacies' pay and benefits are pretty good compared to yours...not too bad for being "flushed down the toilet." maybe you should look into it.
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#116
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Are you really going to sit here as a jet blue new hire fresh out of the military and parrot jetblue management's party line on why the legacies "flushed themselves down the toilet?"
clown alert
p.s. the legacies' pay and benefits aren't too bad compared to yours...maybe jetblue should be "flushed down the toilet" too.
clown alert
p.s. the legacies' pay and benefits aren't too bad compared to yours...maybe jetblue should be "flushed down the toilet" too.
#117
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Position: CA
Posts: 1,209
If you are one of the couple dozen or so guys at JetBlue who absolutely will not vote for ALPA for whatever reason (They somehow wronged you at your Regional airline, you don't want to pay them 1.9% for their Legal, medical, and safety services, etc), please consider the following options:
(Was hoping off in-house).
#118
Does Alpa wronging you at a regional count differently than if it occurs at a different point in your career? I was pretty happy with some of my local guys, the administration in Virginia stunk. Those in VA will be serving me administratively in the exact same position.
(Was hoping off in-house).
(Was hoping off in-house).
An in-house would have been a nice option, but unless you can convince 2600 pilots to donate $3000-$5000 each for startup costs, it's a non-starter. Besides, our current management would treat an in-house like they treat the current PVC...by not showing up to scheduled meetings and by throwing away months worth of work. It's unfortunate, but that's where we are.
#119
Ah, the dreaded bankruptcy word.
But, Pilots flying for bankrupt legacy carriers were still better compensated under concessionary contracts than JB Pilots who were flying for a profitable carrier.
Doesn't that make you want to ask Questions?
From a Pilots perspective, bankruptcy wasn't so bad after all.
JJ
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