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Old 03-19-2014, 01:06 PM   #1  
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Default Jetblue anti-union tactics

It appears jetblue management is putting on the full court press by targeting the junior folks to convince them not to vote for a CBA. Below is an excerpt from the bluepilots website. (I do not have proof, but this is what's going through the grapevine.)

"Not sure if this was in another thread or not, but just got visual email confirmation on how they are targeting the newbies.

< 1yr FO got a call from a "pilot on the drive" inviting him to Boston. I can only assume this was a BOOB as he did not want to identify what pilot called him. Then gets texts from another mgmt type. All expense paid. Hotel, Food, Attend a Dog & Pony Show. In Boston.
Here is the kicker: Company will BUY HIS RESERVE Days off him to do this. Never mind that we are short, and putting out RSAs on a regular basis.

This is why there is so much focus on Boston. Sad and pathetic they have to pay people to come to these meetings. I actually think it's an outrage."


If this is true, it could be construed as vote tampering. Company better be careful.

New folks - Take it from an 8 year guy who, when I started, wanted nothing to do with unions. I have swung the full 180 degrees from NO to YES to Organizing Committee. WE NEED A CBA. Our professional well-being, individually and collectively, is not the company's priority. The only people who will look out for us is US. A strong voter turnout with a very large YES vote (I'm hoping for 80+%) will help us in negotiations.

(Def: "BOOB" equals "BOB" equals "Band of Blue" which references a former group of anti-CBA folks during a previous vote. Thankfully, many of them have seen the light and joined the fight.
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Thanks for the post. I really hope our new pilots don't fall for management's propaganda and promises. We have seen this exact same game before...it'd be kind of funny, but it's too serious to laugh about. As soon as the vote didn't pass last time, those promises went out the window. They gutted our health care and made it one of the worst in the industry, they unilaterally changed many work rules and scheduling rules, and they are currently trying to derail our Pilot Values Committee, which is our only pilot advocate group remaining.

Young guys at JetBlue - Please say "no thanks" to these dinners. Politely disengage from all of management's requests for information. Thanks.
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Sounds like a good deal! Hey Trey! Call me maybe?
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Newhires need to understand that we were here a few years ago. Every single promise management made was never delivered. They've only continued to take things away.
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The goal is to convince you that they are your best friend while taking your wallet... they owe it to their shareholders..
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Newhires need to understand that we were here a few years ago. Every single promise management made was never delivered. They've only continued to take things away.
Don't worry. Enough of us new hires have been wronged at previous carriers and we understand the need for a strong CBA and an advocate. As other new guys I got the call to attend these dinners. My mind has been made up on this vote since before I was hired so I won't attend. Nothing personal against the company. I've actually been treated with nothing but respect and professionalism and can say I like it very much here. But I plan to retire from here and realize the need for a CBA to ensure we get what is fair.
Then again, I was ALPA in my previous job and we got played repeatedly by management, with out MEC's help. I hope that we can get good people in, people that will stand strong but not ostracize management to where dialogue and mutual respect become impossible.
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Don't worry. Enough of us new hires have been wronged at previous carriers and we understand the need for a strong CBA and an advocate. As other new guys I got the call to attend these dinners. My mind has been made up on this vote since before I was hired so I won't attend. Nothing personal against the company. I've actually been treated with nothing but respect and professionalism and can say I like it very much here. But I plan to retire from here and realize the need for a CBA to ensure we get what is fair.
Then again, I was ALPA in my previous job and we got played repeatedly by management, with out MEC's help. I hope that we can get good people in, people that will stand strong but not ostracize management to where dialogue and mutual respect become impossible.
Excellent post. Your opinion as a junior un-jaded new guy is probably more valuable than mine. Thanks for posting.
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Don't worry. Enough of us new hires have been wronged at previous carriers and we understand the need for a strong CBA and an advocate. As other new guys I got the call to attend these dinners. My mind has been made up on this vote since before I was hired so I won't attend. Nothing personal against the company. I've actually been treated with nothing but respect and professionalism and can say I like it very much here. But I plan to retire from here and realize the need for a CBA to ensure we get what is fair.
Then again, I was ALPA in my previous job and we got played repeatedly by management, with out MEC's help. I hope that we can get good people in, people that will stand strong but not ostracize management to where dialogue and mutual respect become impossible.

Great post wilco!
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Don't worry. Enough of us new hires have been wronged at previous carriers and we understand the need for a strong CBA and an advocate. As other new guys I got the call to attend these dinners. My mind has been made up on this vote since before I was hired so I won't attend. Nothing personal against the company. I've actually been treated with nothing but respect and professionalism and can say I like it very much here. But I plan to retire from here and realize the need for a CBA to ensure we get what is fair.
Then again, I was ALPA in my previous job and we got played repeatedly by management, with out MEC's help. I hope that we can get good people in, people that will stand strong but not ostracize management to where dialogue and mutual respect become impossible.
I'm glad to hear that. Good post.
Please call all of your buds from your class and spread the word. This place will have a bright future with the right guys on the MEC. If this vote fails...not so much (get your apps ready).
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Thanks Wilko
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