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badflaps 04-30-2014 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1629442)
It was a long time ago, but as I recall, NWA did not pay for lodging for any part of initial training. Someone will correct me if I am wrong.

In 1964 they paid zip, nada, bupkis, during during orientation. Not on the payroll. Nyrop was the MAN! During the attempted NW-NE merger, three NE guys showed up in Min. for negotiations. Nyrop said the reason they didn't make money was," two too many negotiators". Cookies- for children when they ask, right on the box on the 7C. Tied down tight it was.....

badflaps 04-30-2014 10:19 AM

Not to sound on NWA too much, but DAL didn't pay rent. However you were directed to several apt. complexes owned by DAL pilots in College Park. No shortage of F/A's there.

OneFifty 06-17-2014 05:52 PM

Any insight on nice, safe, no-car-needed crashpads for those of us starting reserve soon?

Rooster435 06-18-2014 07:45 AM

Look on Craigslist and AirBNB for more options. With 50 a month through the summer the crash pad pool has shrunk considerably.

I ended up buying a cheap car and found a place about 4 miles from the airport. I had no luck within walking distance (at least for a private room which I wanted for training). Everybody was full and had a waiting list.

Hotel prices seems to be going up as well. Supply and demand I guess.

Good luck.

1Barracuda 06-21-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by flyergurl (Post 1628989)
Delta doesn't pay for lodging during training?


Delta [or even FedEx for conversation sake] does NOT need to pay for your hotel. There are 11,000 applications on file. If you do not want to pay for a hotel, another 10,999 will, including me. Delta is a premier airline and knows it. We need them more than they need most of us.

tankerdude 06-22-2014 06:27 AM

Delta Training Crash Pad
 
...and that's what's wrong with the airlines. people like you would take the job for pennies on the dollar just to fly those big jets. you're why its so hard to get pay rates to where they should be.

RockyBoy 06-22-2014 09:45 AM

I actually would recommend getting a crashpad over a hotel. Find a nice one for $300-$400 with your own room, nice living room to relax in, nice kitchen, and bring your car down. WAY better than being cooped up in a small hotel room and having to take the shuttle.

There are tons of them available if you have a car. If you don't want to bring a car you might find a place within a few blocks of VA. You can walk to the Holiday Inn and take their shuttle to the training center if you do that.

If you have the $$$ the Residence is probably the best bet, but it will cost ya.

I got ATL88 in training so I found me a nice crashpad for training and kept it until I bid out of ATL. $250 a month and had my own room. Walked over to the old Comfort Inn for a ride to the training center or airport. Just takes a lot of stress out of your life when you are new.

I'd much rather pay for a place to stay during sim training than have to cough up a 737 type, have no benefits for 6 months, or get paid what JetBlue pays during training.

gloopy 06-22-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tankerdude (Post 1669629)
...and that's what's wrong with the airlines. people like you would take the job for pennies on the dollar just to fly those big jets. you're why its so hard to get pay rates to where they should be.

I'm not sure that was 100% fair. All the poster said was that they were willing to pay for a hotel or equivalent. Guess what though, 100% of everyone hired at DL in a very long time have also been willing to do so. But so what. DL pilots have negotiated some of the best new hire pay around, a reduced probation system after OE and the end of probation after 400 hours if that happens prior to a year, which it quite often does and the company pays the first 2 weeks as a courtesy as well. Positive space home on 2+ day breaks is an incredibly nice perk too.

We have more work to do WRT the profession in general and our particular pay/contract as well. But its completely irrelevant to think DL shouldn't be able to fill classes because new hires refuse the job because of the hotel issue. And it certainly doesn't make anyone a patsy for taking the job. Yeah, no thanks on the offer, I'm holding out for a few hundred extra in front end benefits and until I get it I'm passing on the 4-5M dollar career. Yeah right.

FWIW I'd like to see the company voluntarily pay for full footprint hotels, and if not then I'd like to see it in the next contract.

Michaelt 08-14-2014 11:36 AM

Realize this thread hasn't been active in a little while, but thought I'd let anyone who's interested know that I have a room available in East Atlanta to rent while in sim training. I'm a fellow DAL employee (I work in the G.O.) and happy to have pilots-in-training stay at my house. I travel both for work and pleasure so you'll have a quiet, study-friendly environment. East Atlanta is about a 20 minute drive to the airport so you'll have to have your own transportation. Send me a PM if you're interested.

There's a large kitchen, large yard/deck, air conditioning, washer/dryer and wi-fi available. Asking $650/month with everything included.

Wollac 08-14-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michaelt (Post 1705408)
I'm a fellow DAL employee (I work in the G.O.)

What's the G.O.?

Jughead135 08-14-2014 02:38 PM

Any pointers for current DAL and/or crew-rate rooms at ATL hotels...? I'll be riding the commuter reserve train for a few months at least, need to know where to look for the best deal....

Thanks!

Rooster435 08-14-2014 03:38 PM

Go to mycrewguide.com, click on the commuter link, then Atlanta and you'll find a list of airport hotels and their crew rate. Be advised lots of hotels have raised their prices since the hiring wave started. Supply and demand.

maddogmax 08-14-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wollac (Post 1705456)
What's the G.O.?

Company Headquarters .

Hillbilly 08-14-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wollac (Post 1705456)
What's the G.O.?

General Offices

Michaelt 08-14-2014 05:20 PM

General Offices... Our headquarters where the Training Center is.

Fly Faster 08-14-2014 06:02 PM

Check crashpads.com. I stayed at a house owned by Ralph Austin in Jonesboro, which is about 22 minutes south of the training center. It was a room in the basement with private entrance and kitchen plus living room for about $325. If you have a car, it's a great quiet place to stay in a nice neighborhood.

Paok 08-15-2014 08:28 AM

Airbnb Tracy and Forrest between $35-$50 a night to rent a room or you can find friends and rent a whole house. I used them and my hotel points for my stay

johnso29 08-15-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 1630096)
Norwegian Long Haul pays for their pilots hotel for all of initial training ;)



TP

So does Mesa.

MikeF16 08-16-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fly Faster (Post 1705638)
Check crashpads.com. I stayed at a house owned by Ralph Austin in Jonesboro, which is about 22 minutes south of the training center. It was a room in the basement with private entrance and kitchen plus living room for about $325. If you have a car, it's a great quiet place to stay in a nice neighborhood.

I checked out crashpads.com and looked at the free listings. Are there other listings I can't see because I'm not a member, or do you only need to get a membership if you're listing a pad?

My guess is I'm going to be last in my class which will likely mean an MD-88 to NYC or ATL which I'm really hoping will be ATL by the time I finish training. I assume I'll need a crashpad for a month of training and a few months on reserve (3-6?). Since I'll be double dipping while on terminal leave I don't need to stay in the cheapest place on planet and would prefer something with off-street parking, a private room with a quality mattress, a short drive to the airport, and hella-fast internets. That said, I also can't afford the Hilton across the street from the training center either :).

Fly Faster 08-16-2014 01:53 PM

MikeF16 - There are only three listings for ATL on crashpads.com, but the one I stayed at is the second one on that list...the one in Jonesboro. It sounds like that would work well for you. It's in a nice neighborhood and has a community pool, gym, and tennis courts. The gym is very small and not great, but it's better than nothing. When I rented a room from him, I was the only one there and had the whole basement to myself. It was a nice place to stay for training.

Jughead135 08-19-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 1705518)
Go to mycrewguide.com, click on the commuter link, then Atlanta and you'll find a list of airport hotels and their crew rate. Be advised lots of hotels have raised their prices since the hiring wave started. Supply and demand.

That site is pretty good gouge, thanks!

I stayed my first night in base last week (before I'd seen your post) at the Quality Inn Conference Center (on Phoenix). UTTER DUMP, do not recommend.

New problem I ran into today for my second night here: no one at the desk seems to have a clue about crew rates! After getting nowhere on the phone with four different properties (standard: "Sure, we have a crew rate! $137!," with the hotel's own website listing for $120), I reserved a room on points and took the shuttle to the Holiday Inn North. Asked at the desk, crew room available, $65 bucks. Cancelled other reservation.

Question: is there some magic phrasing I'm failing to use??

bohicagain 08-19-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 1708457)
That site is pretty good gouge, thanks!

I stayed my first night in base last week (before I'd seen your post) at the Quality Inn Conference Center (on Phoenix). UTTER DUMP, do not recommend.

New problem I ran into today for my second night here: no one at the desk seems to have a clue about crew rates! After getting nowhere on the phone with four different properties (standard: "Sure, we have a crew rate! $137!," with the hotel's own website listing for $120), I reserved a room on points and took the shuttle to the Holiday Inn North. Asked at the desk, crew room available, $65 bucks. Cancelled other reservation.

Question: is there some magic phrasing I'm failing to use??

Are you calling the hotel and speaking with the the front desk or reservations?
Front desk people should know crew rates

MrBojangles 08-19-2014 04:24 PM

i was surprised about not having paid lodging during training too and i know its been fought about for years. even the regionals spring for hotels during training. seems like the attitude is "I didn't get paid lodging so the new guys shouldn't either"

Jughead135 08-19-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 1708511)
Are you calling the hotel and speaking with the the front desk or reservations?
Front desk people should know crew rates

Yes, front desk--only to either (a) be immediately transferred to the national reservations phone bank, or (b) get quoted a high rate "that's the rate we negotiated with Delta" :confused: ....

dc10guy 08-19-2014 09:15 PM

Try NU travel under hotels through the delta perks.


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