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jetpilot5578 05-02-2014 12:10 PM

Fighter jet multiplier???
 
I am currently flying F-16s and have about 900 hours. At the end of my commitment I will have flown around 1250 total hours (PIC).

I recently talked with a friend, who works on the hiring board for Delta. He told me that their minimum is 1500 hours. I asked him if I would even be granted an interview. He told me "probably not." He told me that there are tons of guys out there with 4000 multi-engine hours that will get the interview before I do.

Don't most airlines grant fighter time some sort of multiplier?

I will be taking the ATP written before 1 Aug. Just trying to see what my chances would be of getting an interview with any major to see if I can even think about getting out by summer of 2015.

Thanks in advance

John Carr 05-02-2014 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by jetpilot5578 (Post 1635052)
I am currently flying F-16s and have about 900 hours. At the end of my commitment I will have flown around 1250 total hours (PIC).

I don't remember what DAL's specific conversion factor is. Maybe a search would yield a specific answer. I might be the typical .3 per sortie, which would put you into the 1500 hr range more than likely.


Originally Posted by jetpilot5578 (Post 1635052)
I recently talked with a friend, who works on the hiring board for Delta. He told me that their minimum is 1500 hours. I asked him if I would even be granted an interview. He told me "probably not." He told me that there are tons of guys out there with 4000 multi-engine hours that will get the interview before I do.

If he works on the hiring board, he would know best. But reading this board, as well as others. A single seat pilot on the lower end of the spectrum with the sortie count doesn't seem to be in a competitive range. However, THAT'S FOR RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. Come the fall and next year, it'll probably go down. As the applicant pool drains, naturally the competitive times for what is in your peer group will drop. But it seems that most single seat, I SAY AGAIN MOST seem to be in the 2000+ hr range, and the usual IP/EVAL/NATOPS/SEFE boxes checked as well.

However, network network network to strengthen yourself to compensate for the areas that may not be making you stand out in you respective peer group for now.

jetpilot5578 05-02-2014 12:24 PM

Thanks John...much appreciated.

John 3:16 05-02-2014 01:51 PM

Jet, Check your post in the military thread

ManFlex 05-02-2014 02:28 PM

How long would you have been flying to have 1250 hours?

jetpilot5578 05-03-2014 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by ManFlex (Post 1635132)
How long would you have been flying to have 1250 hours?

That's 2 full assignments of F-16, plus Basic course and undergraduate time (still PIC). I had a three year, non-flying tour....wanting to get out of the Air Force now.

Qotsaautopilot 05-03-2014 11:40 AM

Don't worry, just mention you are an F-xx pilot and they will hire you with 10hrs. You will be chatting about your squadron in no time. Enjoy the breadsticks

ManFlex 05-03-2014 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by jetpilot5578 (Post 1635663)
That's 2 full assignments of F-16, plus Basic course and undergraduate time (still PIC). I had a three year, non-flying tour....wanting to get out of the Air Force now.

Sorry, could you translate that into years? Civilian only here.

Sliceback 05-03-2014 01:18 PM

UPT time is only PIC when you're solo.

Sliceback 05-03-2014 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by ManFlex (Post 1635700)
Sorry, could you translate that into years? Civilian only here.


UPT is just over a year. 2xx hrs.

RTU/RAG (specific a/c training) is about 6 months. Hours vary. 100 for a fighter guy????

Couple of other schools(survival), gaps between training, that make initial training exceed two years total.

Assignments typically used to be about 2-3 yrs.

So he's got roughly 2 yrs of training, 4-6 yrs operational, and a 3 yr non-flying assignment. 9-11 yrs total???

Rickce7 05-03-2014 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by jetpilot5578 (Post 1635052)
I am currently flying F-16s and have about 900 hours. At the end of my commitment I will have flown around 1250 total hours (PIC).

I recently talked with a friend, who works on the hiring board for Delta. He told me that their minimum is 1500 hours. I asked him if I would even be granted an interview. He told me "probably not." He told me that there are tons of guys out there with 4000 multi-engine hours that will get the interview before I do.

Don't most airlines grant fighter time some sort of multiplier?

I will be taking the ATP written before 1 Aug. Just trying to see what my chances would be of getting an interview with any major to see if I can even think about getting out by summer of 2015.

Thanks in advance

Can you even take the ATP before you have 1500 hours? I do not think the FAA considers any multiplier in order for you take it. It's been a while since I did the ATP written. . not sure if it is only good for 2 years or not. Check that out before you waste time and money taking the exam.

Hueypilot 05-03-2014 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Rickce7 (Post 1635861)
Can you even take the ATP before you have 1500 hours? I do not think the FAA considers any multiplier in order for you take it. It's been a while since I did the ATP written. . not sure if it is only good for 2 years or not. Check that out before you waste time and money taking the exam.

If you don't have an ATP yet, at least take your ATP written before the new rules go into effect. I'm serious, because otherwise it'll be a huge pain to take the written.

With 900 hours, you can get your Restricted ATP now. It's pretty much worthless to the major airlines, but once you click past 1500 hours, you can go to the FSDO and have the "Restricted" taken off your ATP and have a normal ATP certificate. Don't wait to take that written test, though. It should be good for 2 years after you pass.

Again, do this now if you haven't.

Finally, if you want out of the USAF, find a Guard or Reserve unit. A good option would be to fly T-6s with the Reserves, and build up hours that way. Fly for a regional or something and within a couple years you'll be very competitive for Delta or any of the other majors.


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