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buzzpat 09-11-2014 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by E2CMaster (Post 1724606)
Training has been "Combined" in some form since at least the VN era.

Never heard it called "The drop" aside from the Zoomies in VT 31. And it was a zoomie only thing.

Well, I was a T-6 instructor at Moody AFB in 2002-2003 with Navy and Air Force students. The assignments came on "Drop" night for both services.

CheapTrick 09-11-2014 01:42 PM

"Incredibly annoying phrase"? I'm a Navy guy and I find what you wrote incredibly annoying.

TaylorB 09-11-2014 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1725193)
"Incredibly annoying phrase"? I'm a Navy guy and I find what you wrote incredibly annoying.

That's cool... Everyone has a right to an opinion.

CruisenAv8r 09-11-2014 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1724728)
Thirty years ago it was also called the assignment drop.
Assignment night was a huge party afterwards. Typically the last time the class (2 sections) had a blow out party. Two sets of drunks "OMG I got it!" and "OMG what happened?!" Some of the best stories in UPT came from that night.

Spot on. One of the best nights of my life. I was in Del Hell, and I think they ended assignment nights one or two classes after mine. Like Sliceback said, 2 section blow out party that started 2 hours before the drop, then the tequila shots before going up on the stage and spinning the wheel of torture (especially the guys getting BUFFs to Minot). Party continued to the pool. It's fuzzy after that. :eek: Later classes got to go into a classroom and be told what they got.

WARich 09-11-2014 04:01 PM

Yeah, pretty much the PC etc police have made what use to be good times a reason to count down the days to getting out. It's a shame.

Timbo 09-11-2014 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1724833)
Combined?

I just thought the Air Force took over because they love briefings and the rest would rather fly airplanes.

Yeah, as a 4,500hr. ATP rated civilian going through AF UPT, I always thought it was funny they would spend more time briefing than flying! 90 minute brief for a one hour flight! :eek:

One day my T37 IP asked me, "So...when you were flying freight...what did you guys brief?"

I said, "Nothing, we got in the plane, we started it up, and we went flying..."

He said, "Well, what about the weather? Didn't you brief the weather, and the approaches?"

I said, "Nope, we didn't give a sh!t what the weather was, we just went. We had to go anyway or we'd get fired. If the weather at the destination was bad...well...we found it anyway."

He said, "So you busted Mins?"

I said, "No, we just found the runway and landed." ;)

Tower would sometimes ask us, "What's the ceiling out there?" and we'd answer, "It's right AT mins..." :D

(Freight dog code for...it's bleak)

Another Guard Guy with 3,500hrs. and a DC 8 copilot prior (Rich Air, out of MIA, flying 'stuff' to South America), who was in my UPT class said of AF Pilot Training,

"The SOF keeps a piece of blue plastic behind his desk. Every morning he holds it up to the sky, and if the colors don't match it's 'no solo's to the areas'! I just hope that when the Russians come, the weather is good!"

CruisenAv8r 09-11-2014 04:12 PM

FUNNY, but soooo true.

John Carr 09-11-2014 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1725186)
Wow, you're a little thin skinned.:eek:

As you can be at times ;)

It's for the guys that;

STILL wanna be called by their callsign
Refer to the active runway(s) as the "duty runway(s)"
Refer to FO's as "copilots"
Reference EVERYTHING in 24 hour time....."meet for dinner at six?" "yeah, see ya at eighteen hundred hours"

http://www.funnyordie/com/videos/8af...ears-from-nino

jcountry 09-11-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1725303)
Yeah, as a 4,500hr. ATP rated civilian going through AF UPT, I always thought it was funny they would spend more time briefing than flying! 90 minute brief for a one hour flight! :eek:

One day my T37 IP asked me, "So...when you were flying freight...what did you guys brief?"

I said, "Nothing, we got in the plane, we started it up, and we went flying..."

He said, "Well, what about the weather? Didn't you brief the weather, and the approaches?"

I said, "Nope, we didn't give a sh!t what the weather was, we just went. We had to go anyway or we'd get fired. If the weather at the destination was bad...well...we found it anyway."

He said, "So you busted Mins?"

I said, "No, we just found the runway and landed." ;)

Tower would sometimes ask us, "What's the ceiling out there?" and we'd answer, "It's right AT mins..." :D

(Freight dog code for...it's bleak)

"

I must have flown for similar freight place.

That story is 100% the way we rolled!

(The things we did for multi time.)

Timbo 09-11-2014 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1725295)
Yeah, pretty much the PC etc police have made what use to be good times a reason to count down the days to getting out. It's a shame.

You know what's funny? When I went through UPT 30 years ago, there was a class called, "Officership Development".

Every week some old heads would come in and talk to us about what it meant to be an Officer in the USAF. So one week a guy shows up who flew AC130s in Viet Nam. he's wearing a fight suit, his sleeves were rolled up, his zippers unzipped, hair a mess, boots unlaced, cigar hanging out of is mouth.

He opens with, "What this country needs is a GOOD WAR!" then goes on to talk about the pussification of the USAF since Viet Nam! He said (since there was no war at the moment in 1983) the idiots in charge had nothing better to do than worry about haircuts, shoe shines and painting the trash cans for an upcoming inspection! At one point he said, "During Viet Nam, if some Azzhole Major had told us we had to wear our hats or zip up our zippers, we would have bombed his hutch!" :eek: :D

Sad that they are still out there, pussifying the AF experience. Some douche looking for a promotion killed the drop night party, no doubt.

If you want to read a really good book about those glory days (Viet Nam) pick up, "Robin Olds, Fighter Pilot".


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