JB E190 v A320
 

There are threads comparing seniority and reserve life on the 2 aircraft.

I'm curious about comparing the flying they do. Can someone (it would be perfect if you've flown both) talk about the difference in the routes. For example, my friend who flys Embraers for AA says he pretty much never flys west of the Mississippi.

Thanks.

American has Embraers?

Sure do

Filler

I thought their smallest was an A319/20

Eagle/Envoy has Embraers. AA does not.

JB E190 v A320
 

Airways has E190 is that not American.

He could be referring to the US Airways 190s. US Airways is part of the American Airlines Group.

JB E190 v A320
 

The Airbus is the larger fleet, and the pairings have fewer legs. It flies pretty much over the entire route map. There are far more "bus only" cities than "E190 only" cities.

The E190 is only East Coast and Caribbean. It is only based in BOS, JFK and MCO. The pairings often have 4 leg days. There aren't many red-eyes, though a few do exist. Since it isn't a growing fleet, the movement has slowed down.

Thanks for the reply Southerner. I could deal with east coast/Caribbean only. :)

How far away is US and AA from bidding each others lines?

1st Quarter 2016 is a pretty realistic guess. Rumor of 3Q 2015 is floating out there though.

JB E190 v A320
 

190 at Jb is the same, doesn't go further west than Texas .. Hasn't for years . On the 190 you ll do multiple leg days all over the east cost and a bit of island flying. Fll-STI and SJU flying etc.
The 320 does a majority of our flying here , that being said I try to do mostly up and down the east coast cause that were my seniority can get the most credit out of a trip. The 320 does all the west coast stuff , which tends to go junior cause it's less efficient hence earning less money for the amount of days your working. It seems that once your a line holder on the 190 you ll find your self with a commuter friendly schedule much quicker than you will with the airbus . The bus has good trips but unless your senior you won't find good credit trips worth much more than 23 hour 4 day that is commuter friendly. (Garbage)

Honestly the 190 does do what most would call regional type flying , I did nearly the same exact stuff when i was flying delta connection.

This is a JetBlue thread. Please refrain from asking non-Delta Air Lines questions.

Classic!

With all the movement to the bus from the E190 I heard most of the new hires will be going to the E190 for a while.
As a new hire you won't see SJU very much, be prepared to spend many a night in BUF or BTV.

Forever. US East and West don't even fly together.

Pretty significant financial difference after first year- is that going to wash out with airbus reserve vs line holder 190? Also seems people are fleeing the 190, increasing seniority on that end. Valid observation? As a 44 yr old, guessing I'll be over the class average for the upcoming class. I need to commute from DFW for at least the first year with plans of moving to base. Trying to decide which to pick if given the option.

JB E190 v A320
 

I'd pick the bus. All the growth is there and lines are more productive (typically), though you do fly red eyes. I have been on the 190 a year and only have seen movement through additions beneath me which have slowed dramatically. The last bid should have 30 or so 190 Boston guys moving to Captain or the 320, so that trend seems to slowly be changing toward people leaving off the top as well as adding to the bottom.

However, at least out of Boston, all the DFW layovers are flown by the 190. Not sure about JFK to DFW flights though.

It's not that different actually second year in 2015 on the airbus is 84.54 and the 190 is 76.09. I've seen some really high credit lines on the 190 with the ability to sell back PTO at premium you could probably do just as good as a 320 guy or close to it. Just my two cents.

First year guys won't be selling back... Gotta have more than 100pto hrs saved up first. Second year guy can sell back if you're a good boy, don't get sick and don't vacation.

Once you can do the sell back though, it's great if you can hold on to it.

That's what I meant. Second year. Not first.

Roger roger

JB E190 v A320
 

Take the 320 , all the growth is there. I got some pals who got in board last march and are still reserve and will be for some time on the 190 due to no growth on the 190 , sure it will change as guys jump from the 190 to the bus after their 2 year seat lock, but either way growth is on the bus period ... Plus once you do hold a line there is far more bus flying to choose from when it comes to swapping trips in open time and trade with etc, a junior line holder on the bus will get many red eye crappy trips and the only way to get out of then is swapping stuff around ... Easier done when there are trips to do it with .

Well I am on the 190 and I can bid over to the Airbus.. There is a lot of movement over to the other seats from the 190 FO position. Even tho I have just about two years here I would be a junior line holder on the Airbus flying a lot of red eyes.. No thanks, I am staying where I can have a better quality of life.. My time for the big bus will come. Just my 2 cents, carry on.

Even though the growth is on the airbus, the e190 has better movement so you will gain seniority a lot faster. If you go to the bus you may have a lot of guys coming in on top of you.

If you want to be based in BOS then i would go for the 190. More movement than the 320. Especially once you are beyond the 2-year equip lock. In BOS the E190 has slightly more block hours of flying than the 320.

If you want to be based in JFnK then take the 320. Tons more 320 flying there than 190, and youll have decent movement as well.

JB E190 v A320
 

All great points mentioned above , esp the 2 year 190 guys that don't want to bid over . I can't understand your line won't be near as nice depending on what you want....

#redeyesarethedevil!!!!