United 787 question
 

Couple questions:

What seating configuration do you guys have on the -8?

What kind of range does it really have fully loaded?

Can you feel a difference with humidity & pressure? Or is that just a marketing tool?

Any nuances with it?

Thanks

Oh, and what kinds of fuel burns are you seeing at TOC with a full load?

Can only answer first and last questions.

Scab on the left.
Scabs.

Right now almost everyone on here's placing you on the same level a scab, if not a rung lower. Real classy.

Now do what you do best in 3 -2 -1 ........

You won't ever fly one Pelican. You'll be fenced off widebodies when Delta buys Alaska.

Do they actually allow to operate anything above the turd hearse?:mad:. Geeze junior it's time to put your time to better use... perhaps making a bigger cake of soap from two smaller ones?:rolleyes:

Great info...thanx.


Rocky - That sounds about like the same fence I'll face staying here independently...hmmm...i'm ok with that. Enjoy your Beijing layovers and I'll enjoy my Kona 2-days. Cheers good buddy.

Nuances? Yes. Called a 787 by Boeing, currently referred to as the Scabliner.

Care to elaborate Krudawg? I haven't heard this reference before, but then again, I'm an outsider.

Scabliner= a 787 in United paint job quite often captained by a L-CAL '83-85 hire (see 'scab')

- often used by L-UAL hires with disgust as explanation for why they will never bid it
- said UAL hire cannot bid due to UAL ALPA seeking to shelter 747-400 (see 'only plane that counts no matter what!') from intrusion by CAL pilots

Exactly, because "ScabCab" was already taken with the 777, just as far as the nomenclature goes.

"it's a game changer........."

Or do you mean the "name changer"?:p

There's gotta be a reason it's called the scab wagon, any idea what the percentage of scabs vs. real pilots flying it is?

It's probably fair to say 4 out of 5 given 787 captains are probably CAL scabs. A few in the rt seat as well.

As a follow up the 800 seats 36/183 the 900 48/204. Range can't say specifics, but LA-MEL hasn't been a problem. Thus far airplane has actually beaten fuel estimates for the most part. Will burn about 10K/hour total in cruise. 900 actually has better range then 800. As for the humidity/pressure thing, I don't know it def feels somewhat better. As long as thing gets away from the gate it is a great place to work. That said MX is getting better.

As soon as the fence falls you will see all the hypocrites bidding it as quickly as possible. They will flock to it for schedules and pay. The nickname will no longer be a thing and all will be well while they enjoy the fruits.

This will be just like the hypocrites that griped about premium pay, and SRM by the L-CAL before the SLI. Now you would be hard pressed to not find someone that is on the SRM list.

From what evidence is available, it looks like being a scab couldn't have worked out much better.......Very sad

Appreciate the info. 219 Seats isn't much is it?

We have taken delivery of all of the -8 models we will get. The remaining are -9 and -10. The -8 is equal to a 767-300 with a lot more range. Perfect fit for west coast to secondary asian markets.

Why? Did they get super seniority?

It's essentially a 767-200 thats faster and burns 30% less gas.

Lambourne-Why are you so sensitive about scabs on the 787? A little Stockholm syndrome maybe? I guess if all you know is from flying with those scumbags, you forget what they did.

Where on earth did you get the impression I like scabs? No love for them. However, the nickname Scabcab will quickly disappear as soon as the first L-UA pilot hits the line in the thing (by the way I am L-UA). My beef are the large number of hypocrites that like to picture themselves as the standard bearer of all the right things in the eyes of ALPA, yet they will sell their soul for an hour of add pay.

The 787 is a nice bird. It is fast, it flys high, and it is obviously new. The electric brakes tend to overheat after a long taxi in to the gate. The transition to the 787 is a short course from the 777. Can't say if I notice a difference in cockpit climate conditions. You can't open the cockpit windows. There is a hatch in the ceiling like the whale for the cockpit emergency exit. The bunk facilities are better as they are located over the first class cabin and seem to be more quiet. I flew the 777 for over 10 years, and truthfully I still like it better.

BIG SHOT!!!!
Oooooooohhhhh, Kona layovers??!!!------>Whoa, you got him!

TEN

Evidently I'm not a BIG SHOT Ten, afterall, I'll never see a widebody. Like I said, enjoy your Shanghai layover.

Cheers good buddy

Ouch! It is rare to see this much venom over a single set of modest questions. Frankly, I'm having second thoughts about participating (even reading) around here. Is the venom necessary?

It's not the questions, it's the participants. Much history there.

I guess I missed the part in the thread where Pelican was asking about what people thought about the pilots flying the 787. I just saw questions in there about environment and performance.

But it looks so much nicer

Well, he did ask about any nuances about it. That does open up a lot of ground.