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gringo 01-27-2015 03:25 PM

When you jumpseat, you're technically an ACM, and therefore considered "on duty". Yes, even if you're not qualified on the aircraft.

Also, it's written in the jumpseat rules and regulations for pretty much every airline. So if you drink while traveling as a jumpseater, not only are you risking your job, but also having jumpseat privledges revoked for your airline.

Big difference from being a non-rev.

full of luv 01-27-2015 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by 4th Level (Post 1812883)
On every long haul intl flight I've JS on, I slip on a incognito pull-over sweater after I get to my seat and have always been offered adult beverages. Heck, even the cockpit crew has told me to change and imbibe.


"That's against the rules!" comments in 3, 2 ........

Why do you wear your uniform? If your going to break rules and do as you please, why not at least just go biz casual and avoid the suspicion. The F/A's and crew know your JS despite your pullover...

4th Level 01-27-2015 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1813107)
Why do you wear your uniform? If your going to break rules and do as you please, why not at least just go biz casual and avoid the suspicion. The F/A's and crew know your JS despite your pullover...

To get through security and various other reasons. I don't always wear it, but sometimes. I know the crew are aware of who I am - it's not them I'm rolling incognito for.

Like I wrote -

"You're breaking the rules" commentary in 3, 2 ......

Some of you guys are wound way too tight - seriously.

I've been JS Intl for a couple of decades now. You guys worry about yourselves, and I'll worry about me- ok?

Did I ever say I accepted? No. I said it was offered.

"Break the rules and do as I please".

Pahleeze. :rolleyes:

full of luv 01-29-2015 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by 4th Level (Post 1813224)
To get through security and various other reasons. I don't always wear it, but sometimes. I know the crew are aware of who I am - it's not them I'm rolling incognito for.

Like I wrote -

"You're breaking the rules" commentary in 3, 2 ......

Some of you guys are wound way too tight - seriously.

I've been JS Intl for a couple of decades now. You guys worry about yourselves, and I'll worry about me- ok?

Did I ever say I accepted? No. I said it was offered.

"Break the rules and do as I please".

Pahleeze. :rolleyes:

4th,
Trust me, I am far from wound tight.
I was just asking if you intend to imbibe while on JS ( or even non-rev btw), why wear your uniform? It easily gives the pax the wrong impression (which most have anyway), that pilots are just a bunch of drunks waiting to get caught.

My only last point is if you advocate intentionally breaking any rule as a matter of your professional discourse, then where do you draw the line? Which rules are deemed important and which are for the pilots that are "wound tight"?

Anyway, enjoy your JS/Non-rev privileges, I do, and if I see you out there putting back a few cold ones while in uniform on the long haul flight, I'll just smile and say hello.
LUV

PikeAV8R 01-30-2015 01:29 PM

So on a United 787-9 going to Australia how many crew members is that? 3 or 4 pilots and 8-10 flight attendants? Not sure how they staff the long haul international. Trying to figure out how many gift bags to put together. I got Kona espresso truffles, dark chocolate peanut butter cups, and a cookie still to be decided.


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