Furlough history at UAL and DAL
02-19-2015, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Asking a question on APC that would have anything negative in the response about Delta is like trying to walk a tightrope over a swamp full of crocodiles with low self esteem who for some reason are asking for wind checks seconds after receiving one, while also transmitting PA's on guard.
It was a simple question fellas. Didnt imply anything negative about either airline nor any future decisions to be made.
It was a simple question fellas. Didnt imply anything negative about either airline nor any future decisions to be made.
02-19-2015, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ugasucks
Delta furloughed in 1973 but called it a reassignment and offered jobs on the ramp. But you ask any of them and it was a furlough how ever Delta spun it then and now. Recalled them in 1976.
02-19-2015, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Two major furlough periods at DAL:
Early to mid 90s, about 500 furloughed due to industry downturn.
Early to mid 2000s about 1300 furloughed due to 911 and subsequent industry downturn.
Scoop
Early to mid 90s, about 500 furloughed due to industry downturn.
Early to mid 2000s about 1300 furloughed due to 911 and subsequent industry downturn.
Scoop
02-19-2015, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Trying to make a decision based on that information is like trying to predict when the Yellowstone super volcano is going to erupt.
True, United has furloughed twice in the last 15 years and Delta hasn't, but the airline business turns on a dime sometimes. Who is to say the situations can't/won't be reversed?
True, United has furloughed twice in the last 15 years and Delta hasn't, but the airline business turns on a dime sometimes. Who is to say the situations can't/won't be reversed?
02-19-2015, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Asking a question on APC that would have anything negative in the response about Delta is like trying to walk a tightrope over a swamp full of crocodiles with low self esteem who for some reason are asking for wind checks seconds after receiving one, while also transmitting PA's on guard.
It was a simple question fellas. Didnt imply anything negative about either airline nor any future decisions to be made.
It was a simple question fellas. Didnt imply anything negative about either airline nor any future decisions to be made.
It was a simple question. Did you not see my simple response?
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02-20-2015, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
I've been told the first "official" furlough at Delta was after the PATCO strike in 1983. That was the first time DL couldn't offer ramper/crew scheduling/planning etc jobs to the extra pilots.
02-20-2015, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
I've been told the first "official" furlough at Delta was after the PATCO strike in 1983. That was the first time DL couldn't offer ramper/crew scheduling/planning etc jobs to the extra pilots.
It was Sept. of 1985 (4yrs. later) when they started hiring again, only 6 pilots from that 1981 class came back, on Sept. 3 of 1985, so they would have one day of seniority over the rest of their class, hired on Sept. 4.
Delta employees bought the company the first 767 in 1982, as a 'thank you' for not furloughing anyone during the economic downturn and controller's strike of 1981, as most of the other airlines did.
The first official pilot furlough was in 1993, under Ron Allen. This was right after Gulf War 1, fuel prices were high, loads were low, and he'd just paid too much for Pan Am's assets. Delta was losing about $3 Million a day at the time. He also fired about 20% of the other departments too, mx, reservations, office help, etc... under his "Project 7.5" program, (an effort to reduce our average seat costs to 7.5 cents).
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02-20-2015, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shred
appreciate it
Soon after, United parked several B747-400s.
Then came 2008-09. All pilots had been recalled and UA had even hires some nubes. Glenn Tilton wanted to right size the airline for a CO merger. He parked the entire B737-300/500 fleet (94 aircraft ) and another 6 B747-400s. This led to the furlough of yet another 1400+.
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02-20-2015, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Two major furlough periods at DAL:
Early to mid 90s, about 500 furloughed due to industry downturn.
Early to mid 2000s about 1300 furloughed due to 911 and subsequent industry downturn.
Scoop
Early to mid 90s, about 500 furloughed due to industry downturn.
Early to mid 2000s about 1300 furloughed due to 911 and subsequent industry downturn.
Scoop
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