Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 1842356)
And how did they manage that without an NPRM?
Single pilot is ops is within reach with today's technology. A completely autonomous aircraft might not make financial sense ever, not to mention the questionable safety aspect. Think about the servos and cameras that would need to be installed in the aircraft for a ground based operator to be able to fully operate the aircraft from push back to gate arrival at the destination. You would essentially just be moving the pilot from the cockpit to the ground. Not a whole lot of savings there. My understanding about military UAVs is they require quite a support team to operate just one. My guess is it takes more than 2 operators to complete a typical 8 hour UAV mission. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1842336)
Yeah, because if the guy you are flying with is suicidal, he is going to do it flying with a FFDO? Historical precedence of passenger jetliners shows the suicidal guy waits until you have to go to the bathroom. There are reasons to be made against a single-cockpit pilot operation. A suicidal pilot is not one of them. If one wanted to do it, he could even with two pilots - it just wouldn't be two pilots in the flight deck when it happens.
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From the top down many in FredEx management believe the problem with FredEx is the pilot. The quicker they can eliminate this position the smoother the company will run. UAV's here we come!
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
(Post 1842375)
You sure know too much about airline suicide. Is your new job such a drag?
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Single pilot aircraft don't have to be fully autonomous because there is at least on pilot setting up the systems during preflight. In the event of a disabled pilot, the aircraft auto lands via electronic clearance, and stops on the runway. The pilot on the ground receives the clearance from ATC, and uploads it to the aircraft. The single pilot verifies that the clearance is valid, and the aircraft is following the instructions. Changes in aircraft control come from the ground however. The chances of pilot incapacitation, ground systems failing, and the aircraft auto pilot failing all at the same time are so remote, it's not an issue.
The last several accidents in the US could have been prevented with this technology. Trust me, single pilot is coming soon. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1842432)
Single pilot aircraft don't have to be fully autonomous because there is at least on pilot setting up the systems during preflight. In the event of a disabled pilot, the aircraft auto lands via electronic clearance, and stops on the runway. The pilot on the ground receives the clearance from ATC, and uploads it to the aircraft. The single pilot verifies that the clearance is valid, and the aircraft is following the instructions. Changes in aircraft control come from the ground however. The chances of pilot incapacitation, ground systems failing, and the aircraft auto pilot failing all at the same time are so remote, it's not an issue.
The last several accidents in the US could have been prevented with this technology. Trust me, single pilot is coming soon. Please list the last several accidents that would have been prevented by use of single pilot ops. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Single Operating Captain
I've got 30+ years left...not concerned in the least about a single pilot transport in my career, "remote backup" or not.
And I say that as a guy with a single pilot jet type rating on the certificate. |
Call me an optimist, but I sure do hope this whole single pilot operation kicks in within ten years from now, like I get this feeling it is easily able to. Why? So the circle will be complete- I started out flying planes on a computer (MS FS 98) and I might as will finish it up doing it that way. I mean we can at least LEGALLY text and use our PEDs, right guys? If that's not part of the package, then well deal breaker!!!
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
(Post 1842348)
Hmmm...so the 64 year old captain is going to now be alert and ready for the 8:30 single pilot trans-con? And then after that he sets up an auto land with guidance from the on ground co-pilot. What happens when at 300' or even lower the captain is looking outside for the runway on a low mins and the autoland fails or on a Airbus you don't get flare at 50' and it crushes into the pavement? Or tower calls go around and the captain is barely conscious from 8.5 hours of boredom with nobody to interact with?
I hope all these questions and many more are seriously considered before they push this technology. |
Originally Posted by crxpilot
(Post 1842338)
Single pilot, or no pilot drone airlines will NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER happen in our lifetime and probably not even your kids lifetime. Way too much liability can happen with those scenarios. I will get into my self-driving car and kick back in my lazyboy chair as it takes me across the country before I get in a drone airliner. If anyone should worry its city bus drivers, taxi drivers, and garbage truck drivers. I can see those going completely automated in our lifetime.
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