The Emirates Advantage… Not just subsidies
05-17-2015, 06:16 AM
#231
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**** off loser!
Originally Posted by Drofdeb
Its an opinion. Plenty of those floating around just like in-denial AHs 
. I'm going back to corporate to remedy my bum paycheck. Thank you for your concern 
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You all are welcome to ignore all opinions that do not conform to your own. The US Airline RJ-pilot-chapter-11-subsidy issue is real. Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house Mr. DAL/UAL/AA.
Wake me up when the RJ industry is dead, and I'll reconsider. Until then enjoy the ME3 and reaping what you sow.
. I'm going back to corporate to remedy my bum paycheck. Thank you for your concern .You all are welcome to ignore all opinions that do not conform to your own. The US Airline RJ-pilot-chapter-11-subsidy issue is real. Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house Mr. DAL/UAL/AA.
Wake me up when the RJ industry is dead, and I'll reconsider. Until then enjoy the ME3 and reaping what you sow.
05-17-2015, 06:38 AM
#232
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Okay I read it. In a nutshell it said the Gulf carriers now own the routes to India and southeast Asia. They have also taken a little of our traffic that would have connected with our JV partners in Europe to southeast asia.
Delta lost one flight per day to India. I don't like it and I am all for the fight to get that route back. And more importantly make sure that they do not get rights to our country from other than their home country. But again barring them bribing their way into rights that are not written into open skies agreements, where else are they going to poach traffic?
Again JMHO
Delta lost one flight per day to India. I don't like it and I am all for the fight to get that route back. And more importantly make sure that they do not get rights to our country from other than their home country. But again barring them bribing their way into rights that are not written into open skies agreements, where else are they going to poach traffic?
Again JMHO
Originally Posted by globalexpress
This paper just came out:
http://www.openandfairskies.com/wp-c...-Traffic-1.pdf
Take a read and see if you change your mind about the damage these highly subsidized ME airlines are causing and could cause US airlines.
I totally got a boner when they started talking about regression analysis in the paper I linked above. Was that wrong?
The Etihad paper was.....well....lame for the same reasons mentioned above. The US government handed 36 Billion bucks to the US airlines when they went through restructuring? I must have missed that one. The US Government gave the US airlines 30 Billion through the PBGC program? The PBGC program isn't even funded by the US governement. Does the Risk Advisory Group, who wrote the analysis for Etihad, even have access to Google? Wait. Probably not since the government in the countries in question get to choose what their "loyal subjects" see and not see on the internet and in the media. The poor guys at Risk Advisory probably tried to Google "PBGC" and got a handsome picture and bio of one the sheikhs instead.
http://www.openandfairskies.com/wp-c...-Traffic-1.pdf
Take a read and see if you change your mind about the damage these highly subsidized ME airlines are causing and could cause US airlines.
I totally got a boner when they started talking about regression analysis in the paper I linked above. Was that wrong?
The Etihad paper was.....well....lame for the same reasons mentioned above. The US government handed 36 Billion bucks to the US airlines when they went through restructuring? I must have missed that one. The US Government gave the US airlines 30 Billion through the PBGC program? The PBGC program isn't even funded by the US governement. Does the Risk Advisory Group, who wrote the analysis for Etihad, even have access to Google? Wait. Probably not since the government in the countries in question get to choose what their "loyal subjects" see and not see on the internet and in the media. The poor guys at Risk Advisory probably tried to Google "PBGC" and got a handsome picture and bio of one the sheikhs instead.
05-17-2015, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
You're correct. What happens outside of the US is that companies liquidate and then the management of those companies open up a shiny new company without having to deal with chap 11. They're able to dump all of their employees - because the company is liquidated - and hire 'new' employees to their 'new' company at lower wages. The new company has a lower cost structure than the old one that was liquidated.
05-17-2015, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Drofdeb
Its an opinion. Plenty of those floating around just like in-denial AHs . I'm going back to corporate to remedy my bum paycheck. Thank you for your concern .
You all are welcome to ignore all opinions that do not conform to your own. The US Airline RJ-pilot-chapter-11-subsidy issue is real. Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house Mr. DAL/UAL/AA.
Wake me up when the RJ industry is dead, and I'll reconsider. Until then enjoy the ME3 and reaping what you sow.
. I'm going back to corporate to remedy my bum paycheck. Thank you for your concern .You all are welcome to ignore all opinions that do not conform to your own. The US Airline RJ-pilot-chapter-11-subsidy issue is real. Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house Mr. DAL/UAL/AA.
Wake me up when the RJ industry is dead, and I'll reconsider. Until then enjoy the ME3 and reaping what you sow.
Yeah, that'll show em.
05-17-2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Shouldn't you be suing to get on a mainline seniority list or something? If that somehow doesn't pan out, an industry devistating scorched earth response should help ease your regional martyrdom.
Yeah, that'll show em.
Yeah, that'll show em.
PM the person below for more details on how to pool your resources
. Maybe that will help.Im just a messenger, I cant help you or do anything to "save" the poor majors.
Originally Posted by NERD
**** off loser!
. Cannot refute, so lets get personal.
05-17-2015, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Drofdeb
Very mature response..... Cannot refute, so lets get personal.
. Cannot refute, so lets get personal.
05-17-2015, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Just like a certain CEO who is leading this charge? After all, people from that hemisphere were responsible for 9/11, so it must be that company's fault!
05-17-2015, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Yeah that's the reason. Bruh I still don't understand why you're cheerleading for them. Do you really think there is some sweet code share action in it for you or something?
In order to form an opinion, you must seek to understand both sides, weigh the facts / opinions, then make a decision. I must say that many who have posted here against the ME3 come across as uninformed, blinded (understandably, because they feel their jobs are at risk but nevertheless still blinded to an honest debate), and slightly sychophantic.
I will say that the attitude of some on here against the ME3 (ad hominem attacks, name calling, saying others aren't good enough to be hired by the US3, etc.), does not bode well for your argument.
05-17-2015, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
I am not cheerleading for them, "bruh," as you put it. All the questions I asked were to become knowledgeable about the debate.
In order to form an opinion, you must seek to understand both sides, weigh the facts / opinions, then make a decision. I must say that many who have posted here against the ME3 come across as uninformed, blinded (understandably, because they feel their jobs are at risk but nevertheless still blinded to an honest debate), and slightly sychophantic.
I will say that the attitude of some on here against the ME3 (ad hominem attacks, name calling, saying others aren't good enough to be hired by the US3, etc.), does not bode well for your argument.
In order to form an opinion, you must seek to understand both sides, weigh the facts / opinions, then make a decision. I must say that many who have posted here against the ME3 come across as uninformed, blinded (understandably, because they feel their jobs are at risk but nevertheless still blinded to an honest debate), and slightly sychophantic.
I will say that the attitude of some on here against the ME3 (ad hominem attacks, name calling, saying others aren't good enough to be hired by the US3, etc.), does not bode well for your argument.
Anyway I don't care about who they are, I only care about what they are doing and why they are doing it and the effect it will have on all of us.
Bruh.
05-17-2015, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
First of all bruh its cold blooded to put "bruh" in quotes as if you don't mean it bruh.
Anyway I don't care about who they are, I only care about what they are doing and why they are doing it and the effect it will have on all of us.
Bruh.
Anyway I don't care about who they are, I only care about what they are doing and why they are doing it and the effect it will have on all of us.
Bruh.
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