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Were the Airtran CA's pay protected? ...or were they kicked to SWA FO pay.

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Originally Posted by Beechnut (Post 1872488)

Were the Airtran CA's pay protected? ...or were they kicked to SWA FO pay.

No pay ppx. Cue SW pilots who will now try to convince you that it was not a pay cut.......

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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 1872429)

Give me a little bit of time to be able to post more extensively with some other "indisputable facts".

You and many other SW pilot's arrogance is utterly mind-blowing. If I got the seniority and Cptn seat windfall that you ^#+\ers got by way of threats & lies, then I'd be embarrassed to show my face in the terminal.

Regarding the previous poster's question on pay cuts/pay raises...I was a seven year Cptn and fairly senior in my base. After downgrading and having to move to another base (because they closed mine down), I was bidding 21% less AS AN FO in seat than I was as an AT Cptn due to losing 32% relative seniority. I'm also taking home 20-25% less pay, but I have one ex-AT Cptn friend who made 44K less last year and another who was more senior at AT who lost 60K annually.

Paint it anyway you want but a lot of us will be looking for vindication for the rest of our careers. Hope it was worth it....

So, Whacko....please tell us EXACTLY what you mean by "looking for vindication for the rest of our careers." Is it #1, #2 or #3, please let us know.
#1) Does that mean you are going to be mean to your FO's, not let them fly a single leg, not run for food for your flight attendants, give original Southwest pilots your meanest, dirtiest look when you hand over the jet in the jetway?
#2) Or does it mean you're going to pointlessly taxi slow, fly slow, not single engine taxi, run the APU continuosly at the gate, in order to waste money and "show" Gary Kelly your displeasure with the SLI?
#3) Or is it something more sinister in your tireless posts about the SWA ACQUISITION of Air Train that you are referring to?
If you choose #1 or #2 you are just an A$$ clown like most on here suspect you are. If it is anything else you need to immediately have your FAA license permanently suspended and seek psychological counseling.

Can't wait to fly with A$$ clowns like you from Air Tran. I hope you're the minority.

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Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 1872726)

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So, Whacko....please tell us EXACTLY what you mean by "looking for vindication for the rest of our careers." Is it #1, #2 or #3, please let us know.
#1) Does that mean you are going to be mean to your FO's, not let them fly a single leg, not run for food for your flight attendants, give original Southwest pilots your meanest, dirtiest look when you hand over the jet in the jetway?
#2) Or does it mean you're going to pointlessly taxi slow, fly slow, not single engine taxi, run the APU continuosly at the gate, in order to waste money and "show" Gary Kelly your displeasure with the SLI?
#3) Or is it something more sinister in your tireless posts about the SWA ACQUISITION of Air Train that you are referring to?
If you choose #1 or #2 you are just an A$$ clown like most on here suspect you are. If it is anything else you need to immediately have your FAA license permanently suspended and seek psychological counseling.

Can't wait to fly with A$$ clowns like you from Air Tran. I hope you're the minority.

Wasn't it Airtran that brought SE taxiing to SWA?

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Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1872727)

Wasn't it Airtran that brought SE taxiing to SWA?

And you're point is what? Could have been but it is not germain to the question I posed.
No pride of authorship here regarding if SE taxi was a good carryover from Air Train -- just wondering what Whacko means when he says he'll be looking for "vindication" for the rest of his career.

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Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 1872728)

Pretty simple. Any chance I/we get to return the favor of your union getting together with your management to blackmail, bully and threaten us, I'll gladly take the opportunity to return. Hopefully someone #^\+s your career like your union and company #^\+ed so many of ours.

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Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1872727)

Wasn't it Airtran that brought SE taxiing to SWA?

Yes we did, but don't think it's being widely implemented. I'd say 4 out of 5 Cptns I fly with DO NOT single-engine taxi. Honestly, Flt Ops and fuel savings at SWA is a joke.

Whackmaster seriously amigo you need to move on for your mental health alone. Everyone is hiring. Why be miserable?
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Originally Posted by 727C47 (Post 1872769)

Whackmaster seriously amigo you need to move on for your mental health alone. Everyone is hiring. Why be miserable?
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Things were just great until they bought us. I already took a 20%+ pay cut, and while I'd like to move onto a legacy, I can't justify a further 60% pay cut. I'm not in my 20s anymore with no responsibilities.

It's the damned airline industry. $hit happens. Airlines go bankrupt, people get furloughed and others have had it A LOT worse than I have, BUT when it's a calculated manipulation to **** you out of your seniority and Cptn's seat not only by the other pilots' union but also their management acting as the bullies, well let's just say that not everyone is going to take it lying down. Some let it roll off their backs. Others (many) like me take it personally and are chomping at the bit to somehow help Karma be the ***** that she supposedly is.

What was the first offer that the AirTran MEC never sent out?