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FlyerJosh 01-24-2007 04:41 AM

In accordance with Transportation Security Regulation (TSR) 49 CFR, all employees that are granted unescorted access to a Security Identification Display Area (SIDA) and employees that have access to aircraft must undergo a fingerprint based Criminal History Record Check (CHRC). The following is a list of disqualifying crimes:

(1)Forgery of certificates, false marking of aircraft, and other aircraft registration violations; 49 USC 46306.
(2) Interference with air navigation; 49 USC 46312
(3) Improper transportation of a hazardous material; 49 USC 46312
(4) Air piracy; 49 USC 46502
(5) Interference with flight crew members or flight attendants; 49 USC 46506
(6) Commission of certain crimes aboard aircraft in flight; 49 USC 46506
(7) Carrying a weapon or explosive aboard aircraft; 49 USC 46505
(8) Conveying false information and threats; 49 USC 46507
(9) Aircraft piracy outside the special aircraft jurisdiction of the U. S.; 49USC 46502(b)
(10) Lighting violations involving transporting controlled substances; 49 USC 46315
(11) Unlawful entry into an aircraft or airport area that serves air carriers or foreign air carriers contrary to established security requirements; 49
USC 46314
(12) Destruction of an aircraft or aircraft facility; 18 USC 32
(13) Murder
(14) Assault with intent to murder
(15) Espionage
(16) Sedition
(17) Kidnapping or hostage taking
(18) Treason
(19) Rape or aggravated sexual abuse
(20) Unlawful possession, use, sale, distribution, or manufacture of an explosive or weapon
(21) Extortion
(22) Armed or felony unarmed robbery;
(23) Distribution of, or intent to distribute, a controlled substance
(24) Felony arson
(25) Felony involving a threat Felony involving willful destruction of property .
(26) Felony involving willful destruction of property.
(27) Felony
(28) Felony involving dishonesty, fraud and misrepresentation involving important or manufacture of a controlled substance.
(29) Felony involving burglary.
(30) Felony involving theft.
(31) Felony involving possession or distribution of stolen property.
(32) Felony involving aggravated assault.
(33) Felony involving bribery.
(34) Felony involving illegal possession of a controlled substance punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of more than 1 year.
(35) Violence at international airport; 18 U.S.C 37.
Conspiracy or attempt to commit any of the criminal acts listed above.

If your offenses are outside of this list, you have a chance, however you really have an uphill battle to fight. The most important thing is to show that you have distanced yourself from that lifestyle and are continually taking steps to ensure that you don't return.

Do you utilize a support group like narcotics anonymous? If so, that shows ongoing determination to improve and recover. Your biggest battle is to show that you have learned from your mistakes and improved your situation.

I'd also have realistic expectations about your career... the truth is you're most likely not going to see typical career progression... it's going to take you longer to get there and you may never reach the top. Doesn't mean that you shouldn't strive to get there, but understand that your history is a big detractor from the overall "package."

Good luck!

LAfrequentflyer 01-24-2007 04:57 AM

Are you young enough to get into the military for 4 years? If so, you should do it and get that on your record. At the very least you'll get the military block checked and come out with a honorable discharge and be on your way with a clean work history and some education benefits.

-LAFF

HotMamaPilot 01-24-2007 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Topper (Post 107043)

About the sealing of your records as I have had it told to me air carriers now pull FBI records and they report everything right down to pooping in your pants in the third grade. due to the freedom of info act.
Alan Armstrong is a aviation lawyer in Atlanta you can get his number if you try. He is a awsome person in which to retain and ask question if you need legal help.


good luck

You were told wrong; if something is expunged, sure the FBI can see it, but your (potential) employer cannot. As far as the expungement of an ACTUAL conviction.....not sure they will do that.

Caelum Deus 01-24-2007 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Topper (Post 107043)
...No is just an opportunity to try again....

I love the quote...thanks for your input...it nice to hear other simular stories, and from what I hear, 121 seems to be not so strict about hiring someone with my record. Would you recommend any 121s? Thanks again

Caelum Deus 01-24-2007 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 107070)
Are you young enough to get into the military for 4 years? If so, you should do it and get that on your record. At the very least you'll get the military block checked and come out with a honorable discharge and be on your way with a clean work history and some education benefits.

-LAFF

Tried that, and they refused to allow me to do anything beside frontline work. Got to love the gov

Uniform Shop 01-24-2007 06:36 AM


About the sealing of your records as I have had it told to me air carriers now pull FBI records and they report everything right down to pooping in your pants in the third grade. due to the freedom of info act.
If you were a minor at the time I think you are OK but consult a lawyer. Every state has different laws but maybe this will help. This is MA law.

In Massachusetts, an application for employment with a sealed record on file with the commissioner of probation may answer "No Record" with respect to any inquiry herein relative to prior arrests, criminal court appearances or convictions. An applicant for employment with a sealed record on file with the commissioner of probation may answer "No Record" to an inquiry herein relative to prior arrests or criminal court appearances. In addition, any applicant for employment may answer "No Record" with respect to any inquiry relative to prior arrests, court appearances and adjudications in all cases of delinquency or as a child in need of services which did not result in a complaint transferred to the superior court for criminal prosecution.



It is against the law for MA to give out any information to the HR department for the company that is hiring you if you were a delinquent at the time. That is why you may answer no to that question. The feds do their own background check to determine if you have committed any of those crimes and then, if the answer is yes they notify the company.

Good Luck

Caelum Deus 01-24-2007 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by FlyerJosh (Post 107067)

Do you utilize a support group like narcotics anonymous?

I'd also have realistic expectations about your career... the truth is you're most likely not going to see typical career progression... it's going to take you longer to get there and you may never reach the top.

Good luck!

Frist off thanks for the reply...Yes I participate daily in AA and it seems to be working as intended, but its undocumented, so my word that Im sober is all i got. I understand that my aviation journey will askewed and Im ready for it, I just want to be hired so i know that I CAN fly for a company.
AND when you mention "may never reach the top" do you mean any major airline captain?

RedeyeAV8r 01-24-2007 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by FlyerJosh (Post 107067)
In accordance with Transportation Security Regulation (TSR) 49 CFR, all employees that are granted unescorted access to a Security Identification Display Area (SIDA) and employees that have access to aircraft must undergo a fingerprint based Criminal History Record Check (CHRC). The following is a list of disqualifying crimes:
(1-12)....................................
(13) Murder
(14) Assault with intent to murder
(15) Espionage
(16) Sedition
(17) Kidnapping or hostage taking
(18) Treason
(19) Rape or aggravated sexual abuse
(20) Unlawful possession, use, sale, distribution, or manufacture of an explosive or weapon
(21) Extortion
(22) Armed or felony unarmed robbery;
(23) Distribution of, or intent to distribute, a controlled substance
(24) Felony arson
(25) Felony involving a threat Felony involving willful destruction of property .
(26) Felony involving willful destruction of property.
(27) Felony
(28) Felony involving dishonesty, fraud and misrepresentation involving important or manufacture of a controlled substance.
(29) Felony involving burglary.
(30) Felony involving theft.
(31) Felony involving possession or distribution of stolen property.
(32) Felony involving aggravated assault.
(33) Felony involving bribery.
(34) Felony involving illegal possession of a controlled substance punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of more than 1 year.
(35) Violence at international airport; 18 U.S.C 37.
Conspiracy or attempt to commit any of the criminal acts listed above.
!

I wonder how FWS will replace the majority of the Hub work force in MEM, EWR, LAX and OAK? :confused:

Caelum Deus 01-24-2007 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by BoredwLife (Post 107048)
Hey I had a few Blemishes on mine. Mine had to deal with my temper when i was younger.

I had to explain it and I can say it is snot the most comfortable thing to explain to the chief pilot and 3 assistant chiefs. :eek:

But keep it clean now and make your self as marketable as possible.

Thanks..marketable, any suggestions? (degrees, certificates, community service, honor roll, many letters of recommendations..those type of things?)

Caelum Deus 01-24-2007 06:47 AM

". Bad news is its be hard and by hard I mean I have not been successful YET at going to a National or Legacey because of boo boo"

Nat / leg....what about cargo, is that included. And for the nat or leg companies...do you have more then the requirements to hiring??


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