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Well this is horrible news! My tax dollars at work.

We need a government of negotiators ....wait for it !!!!

NAI's CEO said recently that if London Gatwick opens a 2nd runway (crazy that it only operates a single runway) that he would base 50 787s at LGW! That's a lot of airplanes to fly to the States and elsewhere from London Town... See article below:

http://www.trbusiness.com/regional-news/international/norwegian-promises-150-aircraft-if-gatwick-wins/103021

Wouldn't help us pilots, but certainly would be a huge coup for the flying public to have cheaper flights to/from Europe...

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Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2110319)

NAI's CEO said recently that if London Gatwick opens a 2nd runway (crazy that it only operates a single runway) that he would base 50 787s at LGW!

Interesting.

If I was the UK PM, I would respond that if he paid for the runway and all associated costs, I'd pay for his jets.

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Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2110310)

Our wonderful gov't in action.

Debate an application for more than 2 years, then approve it, then invite comments re: the approval. :rolleyes:

As a taxpayer I want to fire every single one of the people responsible who I employ. That is just pathetic.

+1 very well said
Pathetic

Come on, boys. Its the same old story that we went through in deregulation (though most of you are too young to remember that!). Its good for the consumer because they'll get cheap flights.

You friggin' pilots won the lottery with your high paying jobs anyway.

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Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2110332)

W t f packrat?

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Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 2110240)

Barely more. Welcome to flying a 787 for less than JetBlue's E190 rates.

NAI is high profile because it is intent on competing on the lucrative transatlantic routes. But what about Neelmen's Azul Airlines down in Brazil (flying A330s from São Paulo to MCO, FLL and JFK I believe) or TACA from Latin America or the various Chinese airlines flying 777s or 787s to the States? They all pay their local pilots SQUAT!!!!! Super low pay relative to US Legacy pilots....

And yet NAI is the one highlighted constantly because it threatens to lower average airfares on lucrative routes to/from Europe... I bet that NAI will have to eventually raise pay in order to attract more pilots if their growth continues - but nobody should expect US Legacy pay levels (ie $300K for a Delta 767/777/A330 Captain). I think Virgin Atlantic 787/744/A330 Captains make barely half that amount and their taxes are 50-60%. And since Delta owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic, should Delta pilots be concerned that their VS counterparts are paid so much less for widebody flying to the U.S.? I never hear about it.

I am not defending them, but NAI gets all the bad press because it's model appears to be working with efficient Dreamliners and it is a big threat to entrenched U.S. and European legacies... It is easy to forget that point. Relative to other foreign airlines serving the U.S. like Azul or Avianca, NAI probably pays its pilots better. It's all RELATIVE....Why no yelling at Azul's very low A330 rates?????