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Binksy 07-15-2016 10:56 AM

Legacy Reserve Rules
 
Looking for a comparison of the Reserve Rules for the Legacy Carriers.

I know some of this could be found by digging through hundreds of pages of all three different carrier's respective forums, so if that is going to be your reply, thanks and carry on.

Mainly looking for:

-Min days off
-Callout times on Short/Long Call
-Is each month all Short or All Long, or do you start Long with the option of being converted to short?
-Ability to drop/trade reserve days.
-Average length of time on reserve (currently and/or possibly projected) before holding a line.

The Juice 07-15-2016 12:23 PM

Delta


filler...

viper548 07-15-2016 01:13 PM

AA- 12/13 days off
Short call- "promptly"
Long Call- 12 hours.
Bid long or short call line. Long can be converted to short 5 times per month. 30 mins extra pay each time.
I am usually able to call scheduling and trade reserve days. There isn't a way to trade with other pilots. You can drop if staffing allows.
E-190 reserve is a couple months after training. Airbus is over 2 years on the LUS side. Looks like MIA and LGA might have shorter times to holding a line.

flynryan15 07-15-2016 01:56 PM

UAL
All reserve lines are longcall can be converted to short.
12 days off.
Aggressive pick up window.
I never had a problem trading days.
Time to hold a line depends on fleet and base, in EWR 737 it took me 2 months to hold a line.
Cannot be assigned a show before 1000 on day 1, released at 1000 on last day unless assigned a trip or if last day is before FDO released at 1500.

Binksy 07-18-2016 02:37 PM

Thanks guys! Anyone have the details on Delta?

full of luv 07-20-2016 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Binksy (Post 2161882)
Looking for a comparison of the Reserve Rules for the Legacy Carriers.

I know some of this could be found by digging through hundreds of pages of all three different carrier's respective forums, so if that is going to be your reply, thanks and carry on.

Mainly looking for:

-Min days off
-Callout times on Short/Long Call
-Is each month all Short or All Long, or do you start Long with the option of being converted to short?
-Ability to drop/trade reserve days.
-Average length of time on reserve (currently and/or possibly projected) before holding a line.

Delta
-12/13 depending on number of days in bid month
-12 hr call-out but can be placed on "short call" (with 12 hours notice) up to 6 days a month (in my category it seems to happen about 3 days a month on average).
-All long unless placed on short by scheduling at least 12 hours notice (usually about 24 hours notice).
-You can trade reserve days as long as mandatory groupings remain intact (example must be on at least 4 day blocks for international categories). You can trade days as long as day leaving is not below required reserves, and if it is, you can still trade if adding an even lower reserve coverage day.
-Impossible to say as it depends on category and with PBS sometimes there are only a few on reserve. Also, in my category, since the reserve guarantee is only 2 hrs less than average line value, many of the reserve lines often go senior to flying lines if there is anticipated extra pilots.
-I have newhire mentors who have only done one month of reserve in NYC and have a line in ATL within a few months. Lots of hiring right now.
-Lastly you can request trips out of open time but reserve flying is "metered" by a bucket "point" system which tries to keep reserve usage and "short call assignments" more even across the reserves available.

LuckyNow 07-22-2016 06:36 AM

I will say that at AA we are rolling out PBS (August is the first month it's live in ORD, DCA (LAA only), and STL. Due to less reserves needed and advantages to bidding reserve when you have vacation, it could see the length of time on reserve go down a bit.

PRS Guitars 07-22-2016 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by LuckyNow (Post 2165893)
I will say that at AA we are rolling out PBS (August is the first month it's live in ORD, DCA (LAA only), and STL. Due to less reserves needed and advantages to bidding reserve when you have vacation, it could see the length of time on reserve go down a bit.

Yes, but some new JCBA rules are about to be implemented that make reserve worse than it was (LUS anyway, maybe these rules are already in place at LAA).

Used to be when on long call and done with a sequence, you did not have to answer your phone or check for sequences until 12:15 after block in. Then after that amount of time, you had to be given 12 hours notice. This meant that depending on when you block in, you could pretty much count on getting the next day off, and were guaranteed you'd have 24:15 off at the very least.

Now we will have to check for an assignment after blocking in and that assignment could be 12:15 after block in (as opposed to 24:15 after block in). We also have to check between 1500-1600 HBT.

Of course I could be interpreting the contract wrong, but this is how I read it.

This usually meant you'd only be used once during a four or five day bucket, it will now be much easier for them to utilize you for two sequences.


Luckynow, is this new for AA too? Or the way it's been? Am I misinterpreting the rules?


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