Logbook and aircraft tail numbers
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Logbook and aircraft tail numbers
I fly for an airline and haven't logged anything in a year. My plan was just to catch it all up when the time came by getting all my data off the scheduling website. I just realized that this website doesn't include tail numbers for the planes I flew. It does have flight numbers so I tried to look up tail numbers on flight aware and haven't been able to find that info on there either. I still fly for this airline and I know which tail numbers we have. I'm considering just randomly assigning my companies tail numbers to flights. My question is this: can this come back to haunt me in an interview with a legacy? I'm not sure if they even could verify somehow whether or not the correct tail number is logged for a given flight? Am I over thinking this? Will they go to the length of confirming tail numbers for a particular flight? Thanks in advance for your input!
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Q: I don't have all the information needed for my logbook. Should I just go ahead and lie about it?
A: When in doubt, and uncertain about accuracy or details, your first inclination is to lie? I'm not sure where it is but some company might like the way you think.
As an interviewer said - the people who get turned down often make it a pretty easy decision. Lying or falsifcation, especially of your logbook, is one of them.
A: When in doubt, and uncertain about accuracy or details, your first inclination is to lie? I'm not sure where it is but some company might like the way you think.
As an interviewer said - the people who get turned down often make it a pretty easy decision. Lying or falsifcation, especially of your logbook, is one of them.
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Q: I don't have all the information needed for my logbook. Should I just go ahead and lie about it?
A: When in doubt, and uncertain about accuracy or details, your first inclination is to lie? I'm not sure where it is but some company might like the way you think.
As an interviewer said - the people who get turned down often make it a pretty easy decision. Lying or falsifcation, especially of your logbook, is one of them.
A: When in doubt, and uncertain about accuracy or details, your first inclination is to lie? I'm not sure where it is but some company might like the way you think.
As an interviewer said - the people who get turned down often make it a pretty easy decision. Lying or falsifcation, especially of your logbook, is one of them.
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If possible, try to obtain printouts of flights from the company, if possible. Get separate printouts for indivual calendar years. Ask your Chief Pilot or D/O to attest to the fact that times indicated on the sheet are true and correct. A company stamp on each printout won't hurt either. Keep the sheets with your logbook. Be prepared to provide a valid explanation to those who will be interviewing you. They may not be too impressed with the fact that you've not kept your logbook up to date. However, HR prefers honesty rather than excuses.
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That's what I was hoping. If the airlines I'm interviewing with can get their hands on the data then I ought to be able to get my hands on it one way or another too. I guess I'll have to do some more digging. Thanks
#7
I would reach out to your SOC/OCC Manager or aircraft routing manager to see if they can help you.
#8
I would leave info such as tail number blank if you can't get the info. I would also keep the company print out of your flight times in case anyone has any questions.
From this point forward you should keep a very accurate logbook. You can always explain the lack of tail numbers for a year as a lesson learned. Shouldn't be too big of a deal as long as the logbook is maintained well from this point forward.
From this point forward you should keep a very accurate logbook. You can always explain the lack of tail numbers for a year as a lesson learned. Shouldn't be too big of a deal as long as the logbook is maintained well from this point forward.
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I would leave info such as tail number blank if you can't get the info. I would also keep the company print out of your flight times in case anyone has any questions.
From this point forward you should keep a very accurate logbook. You can always explain the lack of tail numbers for a year as a lesson learned. Shouldn't be too big of a deal as long as the logbook is maintained well from this point forward.
From this point forward you should keep a very accurate logbook. You can always explain the lack of tail numbers for a year as a lesson learned. Shouldn't be too big of a deal as long as the logbook is maintained well from this point forward.
#10
That's a rough one. The easy/ lazy way has returned to bite you in the ass. Out of curiosity, where did this idea come from? If you haven't figured it out yet (although I'm sure you have), it was a terrible one.
Chalk it up to lesson learned, and like others have said, your best bet is through someone in your operations control. The only problem I see is you're now creating a ton of work for someone else to fix your mistake. If you're successful in getting the information, be certain to thank the person that helps you out. Probably wouldn't hurt to send a gift of some sort to show your appreciation.
If nothing else, you now have an excellent 'live and learn/ TMAAT' story for an interview! Best of luck!
Chalk it up to lesson learned, and like others have said, your best bet is through someone in your operations control. The only problem I see is you're now creating a ton of work for someone else to fix your mistake. If you're successful in getting the information, be certain to thank the person that helps you out. Probably wouldn't hurt to send a gift of some sort to show your appreciation.
If nothing else, you now have an excellent 'live and learn/ TMAAT' story for an interview! Best of luck!
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