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TommyBoI 10-05-2016 08:44 PM

Yeah I just hate it when a jumpseater doesn't have their FCC RTOP in hand and ready, darn kids these days!

Lakeaffect 10-05-2016 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2217826)
Let's start with jumpseating (which is most definitely not what you book on myidtravel.com).

Myidtravel.com is how you make a listing for AA in order to jumpseat.

TommyBoI 10-05-2016 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2217826)
If I'm in the actual (no seat in back), I'll say something like "Good morning ( ) , my name's ___ and I'm with Skywest. If it's OK with you I'd like to request a ride to ( ). They don't have any room in the back so hopefully you're OK with me in the actual." And then I'll present my credentials. In my experience, guys will check your paperwork more carefully when you're in the actual, just to ensure you're not a long-lost Bin Laden relative.

Do you really call it "the actual"?

RonnyK320 10-06-2016 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by TommyBoI (Post 2217849)
Do you really call it "the actual"?

Yeah I may deny him if I hear him call it that :)

The Juice 10-06-2016 06:12 AM

No thread better illustrates how Type A control freaks pilots are than this one does, or any other jumpseat thread that is on here.

You check in up front, on any jumpseat, and ask. That's it. Why all the pages with "well I do this..."

It literally is that simple.

Jughead135 10-06-2016 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2217826)
Let's start with jumpseating (which is most definitely not what you book on myidtravel.com).

Wrong. Some carriers indeed require you to list on myidtraval or id90travel for the jumpseat (as Lakeaffect already pointed out). ALPA's jumpseatinfo.org page is a great resource to figure out what a given carrier requires for JS'ing.


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2217826)
(you cannot J/S internationally unless it's on your own metal and your carrier allows it.)

Wrong. You cannot sit in the cockpit unless on your own metal (do I have to call it "the actual"?); subject to any limits imposed by the same interline agreements that authorize the JS in the first place, you most certainly can JS internationally.

As an aside, wasn't United running an experiment a year or so ago, considering opening up the flight deck ("the actual" ;) ) internationally to OAL pilots? Whatever happened with that?



Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2217791)
What is the difference between jump seating with a seat in back and non reving?

To shorten the answer a bit: you can JS on any carrier with a reciprocal arrangement with your own company (probably any US Pt 121 & a handful of Pt 135), subject to their rules & any rules imposed by that reciprocal arrangement. You can only non-rev* on your own company and/or their regional/mainline partners (subject, once again, to company rules on the subject). At many carriers (mostly on one's own metal), you can get preferential treatment on the JS vs NR (the ability to reserve the JS, for example), but that's company-specific. Probably the biggest single difference is, a JS'er can sit in the cockpit if there are no seats in back; a NR'er cannot sit in the cockpit. If you're listed as NR and think you have a seat, but at the last minute the seats fill... well, good luck getting the gate agent to re-list you as JS at push time....


*As Turbosina mentioned, you can "sort-of" NR on other metal via ZED fares/ID90. You pay for these--typically less than an online ticket, but not by a whole lot unless you're looking international--but still fly standby, usually at the bottom of the list (roughly equal to buddy passes).

sandrich 10-06-2016 07:20 AM

I'm an ACMI guy. I jump seated (jumpsat ?) on American this year. The flight was empty. She gave me an actual boarding pass with a seat assignment and everything. I asked if I still had to go up front and give the captain anything and her answer was no. I didn't have any paperwork to give the captain or anything. Needless to say I still stopped in up front just to say "hey" and get their approval but I got the impression from them that it wasn't needed. Better safe than sorry.

Where I was really thrown off was in flight, the FA came by to serve drinks and says to me "ya know, if you take your ID off I can serve you drinks (alcohol)" so I told her no thanks and that I was jumpseating. She goes "oh, that doesn't matter. But suit yourself"


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Broncofan 10-06-2016 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Lakeaffect (Post 2217845)
Myidtravel.com is how you make a listing for AA in order to jumpseat.

And virgin america and jet blue

Turbosina 10-06-2016 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by TommyBoI (Post 2217843)
Yeah I just hate it when a jumpseater doesn't have their FCC RTOP in hand and ready, darn kids these days!

I actually had a guy ask me for it once, no joke.

Turbosina 10-06-2016 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by TommyBoI (Post 2217849)
Do you really call it "the actual"?

No, but... You know what I was trying to say.


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