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Old 02-26-2007, 05:16 AM   #51  
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Supposedly the mins are going to go down to 2000 SIC at Horizon. No official announcement yet. Alaska is doing a large interview group on Feb 27 & 28. Several Horizon Captains are in that group.....All of them aren't military or legacy people, SkyHigh.
Every once in a while even the dogs in the back yard get thrown a bone.

Alaska has done this before and few average "Joe's" got hired. I remember they bent over backwards to give a minority two tries at the sim. He failed them both. The bottom line is that Alaska might hire a few but will never hire very many. They would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did. I am sure that for every Horizon pilot they hire four more will come from Skywest.

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"The bottom line is that Alaska might hire a few but will never hire very many"

17% of Alaska's newhires in 2006 were from Horizon. You should'a stayed. Especially considering you have connections at Alaska.
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Last night I remembered that it was Alaska Airlines that inspired me to go to a LCC in the first place. In my first interview with Alaska the board mentioned that "they liked to see some heavy jet time". Six months later I was sitting in 757 ground school for National Airlines.

A two years later at a job fair the chief pilot of Alaska Airlines when asked if I should stay with a faltering company told me that "the majors liked guys with heavy jet time".

It was common for regional pilots to erase the stench of flying turbines by jumping to a Polar, Evergreen or Vanguard. Less than a year later they were on with the majors of their dreams.

Most average Joe's need some kind of "extra credit" on the resume to get noticed. Simply growing old in the left seat of a Dash 8 will not do any good. Where else is a guy supposed to get some heavy jet time other than an LCC or the military?

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are you saying that you interviewed with alaska and they said no because you didn't have "heavy jet time". if that is the case then I think they lied to you. alaska knew exactly what kind of time you had when they agreed to interview you.
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"Making SWA $$$ again? Like you said, it might take a few years. Remember the phrase: "The bull walks up the stairs, but the bear jumps out the window." With nearly $40k cut for everyone, I bet the bull will take it's ol' sweet time to climb to the tenth floor... Right now AS ranks about 4th for 737/A320 pay scales. A $7-$10 per hour raise will put you in 2nd place behind SWA."

Ironic isn't it? A pilot from the original LCC that started the race to the bottom for the airline pilot career is crowing about pay rates that the rest of the industry had to fall back to. Man oh man how the worm has turned...
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are you saying that you interviewed with alaska and they said no because you didn't have "heavy jet time". if that is the case then I think they lied to you. alaska knew exactly what kind of time you had when they agreed to interview you.
What a totally ridiculous assertion on his part. Alaska has been hiring a ton of pilots from Horizon, Skywest, Great Lakes, etc.

He obviously got shown the door for other reasons. They're pretty good at sniffing out the type of person who would lower themselves to work for B6, VX or Skybus.
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are you saying that you interviewed with alaska and they said no because you didn't have "heavy jet time". if that is the case then I think they lied to you. alaska knew exactly what kind of time you had when they agreed to interview you.
SkyHigh, you stated that you interviewed twice at Alaska. If they called you for the interviews you obviously met their requirements. To call you in for an interview and THEN tell you that you don't have "heavy jet time" seems ridiculous to me. What did they tell you the second time? I read post after post from you about how you don't have the connections, the relatives, live in the right neighborhood, the right social circle, etc. to explain why you weren't hired. The way I look at it, if an airline calls you for an interview they WANT to hire you. The job is basically yours to lose. I think you need to take a look in the mirror my man.
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[QUOTE=Chillyhead;124736]SkyHigh, you stated that you interviewed twice at Alaska. If they called you for the interviews you obviously met their requirements. To call you in for an interview and THEN tell you that you don't have "heavy jet time" seems ridiculous to me. What did they tell you the second time? I read post after post from you about how you don't have the connections, the relatives, live in the right neighborhood, the right social circle, etc. to explain why you weren't hired. The way I look at it, if an airline calls you for an interview they WANT to hire you. The job is basically yours to lose. I think you need to take a look in the mirror my man.[/QUOTE]


that would mean he might have to face some real hard facts and most people don't like to do that...
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SkyHigh, you stated that you interviewed twice at Alaska. If they called you for the interviews you obviously met their requirements. To call you in for an interview and THEN tell you that you don't have "heavy jet time" seems ridiculous to me. What did they tell you the second time? I read post after post from you about how you don't have the connections, the relatives, live in the right neighborhood, the right social circle, etc. to explain why you weren't hired. The way I look at it, if an airline calls you for an interview they WANT to hire you. The job is basically yours to lose. I think you need to take a look in the mirror my man.
Not always true. Many times a company will interview tons of people while only having a handful of positions open. This would likely be the case at a place like Alaska.
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are you saying that you interviewed with alaska and they said no because you didn't have "heavy jet time". if that is the case then I think they lied to you. alaska knew exactly what kind of time you had when they agreed to interview you.
True enough, that is what I was thinking.

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What a totally ridiculous assertion on his part. Alaska has been hiring a ton of pilots from Horizon, Skywest, Great Lakes, etc.

He obviously got shown the door for other reasons. They're pretty good at sniffing out the type of person who would lower themselves to work for B6, VX or Skybus.
The interview in question took place in 2000. I agree that they hire a "ton" of skywest pilots, but Horizon ?? Hardly.

I never thought of the union reason before. Maybe I was filtered out for that very reason. I never thought about that before you mentioned it.

As I have mentioned before I didn't have a sponsor to teach me these things. Horizon Air was the only place I ever worked that had a union and it was really non-existent. All I could do was to follow examples that were left for me. Several others went to non-union companies and were hired by Alaska Airlines.

If that was the case then here we have yet again how nepotism and the old boy network can guide the selected few through the back door. If someone can be excluded from an airline career for simply trying to better themselves then that is a poor strategy. You should realise that by aggressively shutting others out you are creating a breeding ground of anti-union scabs for a start up to draw pilots from.

Hey I love this guy!! I haven't had a good old scab debate for over a year now.

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