Which ULCC?
01-23-2017, 07:15 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Do you believe that will continue in 5, 10 and 15 years from now as the airline grows. Does Allegiant not maintain many of those turns with a very aggressive and often hated Temporary basing program?
Will Allegiant eventually begin overnights? Yes. There are only a limited number of underserved markets (that fall within 4 hours flight time of a base) that make up our cornerstone. That is why we have seen a departure from the typical G4 routes, airports, and frequency pattern. But day turns will always remain.
As far as our "hated temporary basing program," are you talking about TDY bases? That is a very small portion of what we do now. I know of only 1 seasonal TDY base (Myrtle Beach) and I think it's small and filled with volunteers.
01-23-2017, 09:32 AM
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It's pretty simple...
If consumer reports had to do one of their useful graphs on "FO Allegiant" vs "FO Spirit" without too much consideration for the medium to long term future (because that's all way too unpredictable no matter where you go) and with the consideration that you will live in a base... I think Allegiant wins "overall score" hands down. I think most would probably agree.
In the present day, Allegiant is a better place to be than Spirit (if you live in base). CP has told me that we have applicants who are currently at Spirit and Frontier (take that with a grain of salt of course).
my 2 cents
-Alex-
If consumer reports had to do one of their useful graphs on "FO Allegiant" vs "FO Spirit" without too much consideration for the medium to long term future (because that's all way too unpredictable no matter where you go) and with the consideration that you will live in a base... I think Allegiant wins "overall score" hands down. I think most would probably agree.
In the present day, Allegiant is a better place to be than Spirit (if you live in base). CP has told me that we have applicants who are currently at Spirit and Frontier (take that with a grain of salt of course).
my 2 cents
-Alex-
01-23-2017, 12:11 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by akemps
It's pretty simple...
If consumer reports had to do one of their useful graphs on "FO Allegiant" vs "FO Spirit" without too much consideration for the medium to long term future (because that's all way too unpredictable no matter where you go) and with the consideration that you will live in a base... I think Allegiant wins "overall score" hands down. I think most would probably agree.
In the present day, Allegiant is a better place to be than Spirit (if you live in base). CP has told me that we have applicants who are currently at Spirit and Frontier (take that with a grain of salt of course).
my 2 cents
-Alex-
If consumer reports had to do one of their useful graphs on "FO Allegiant" vs "FO Spirit" without too much consideration for the medium to long term future (because that's all way too unpredictable no matter where you go) and with the consideration that you will live in a base... I think Allegiant wins "overall score" hands down. I think most would probably agree.
In the present day, Allegiant is a better place to be than Spirit (if you live in base). CP has told me that we have applicants who are currently at Spirit and Frontier (take that with a grain of salt of course).
my 2 cents
-Alex-
01-23-2017, 01:04 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I personally don't like the home every night schedule. I Prefer being gone 4 days at a time and be home 5-6 days, which swapping out stuff out at Spirit allows me to do. Plus with those times off, we do lots of mini vacations.
01-23-2017, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
As much as I like to rip on Allegiant for their MX, you should probably pick the airline that is closest to where you want to live if QOL is your largest factor. As far as the contract goes at Spirit, I would expect it to surpass what Allegiant has now by a considerable margin.
01-23-2017, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by akemps
It's pretty simple...
If consumer reports had to do one of their useful graphs on "FO Allegiant" vs "FO Spirit" without too much consideration for the medium to long term future (because that's all way too unpredictable no matter where you go) and with the consideration that you will live in a base... I think Allegiant wins "overall score" hands down. I think most would probably agree.
In the present day, Allegiant is a better place to be than Spirit (if you live in base). CP has told me that we have applicants who are currently at Spirit and Frontier (take that with a grain of salt of course).
my 2 cents
-Alex-
If consumer reports had to do one of their useful graphs on "FO Allegiant" vs "FO Spirit" without too much consideration for the medium to long term future (because that's all way too unpredictable no matter where you go) and with the consideration that you will live in a base... I think Allegiant wins "overall score" hands down. I think most would probably agree.
In the present day, Allegiant is a better place to be than Spirit (if you live in base). CP has told me that we have applicants who are currently at Spirit and Frontier (take that with a grain of salt of course).
my 2 cents
-Alex-
01-23-2017, 04:13 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by Cujo 665
Lol, so is management and everyone else! Now you get to live under bottom barrel rates and sign an allegiant like contract 5 year down the line.
01-23-2017, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nkbux
Spirit has not had 1 pilot leave for anywhere but UAL, AA, DAL, FedEx, UPS, and SWA... fact. This appears to be a rather jaded opinion. The 99% concensus at Spirit is that the new Allegiant contract would've been laughed at and never ratified
I'm still in the honeymoon phase, but I've never lived in base before, I've always been a commuter, even on reserve. To me this is like waking up from a long bad dream. I'm "middle age" so my perspective is going to be different than a 30 year old.
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